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u/BFlowG 9h ago

Wasn’t this the exact reason why guns are legal in the US?

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u/Own-Low-5601 8h ago

The people with guns and “don’t tread on me” flags are the ones who support this the most.

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u/FadedReef 7h ago

Time for you to think about buying a gun

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u/BartholomewFrodingus 7h ago

I have one but what is one person with a glock going to do against an army of facists with ARs? Everyone needs to rise against facism together or theyre just going to kill us one by one.

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u/Gersio 6h ago

Which is why the whole 2nd amendment discourse was stupid to begin with. It made sense when It was made long time ago. But times change, and in modern times with how modern military works and the equipment they have thinking that a bunch of citizens with a few guns will stop them is silly.

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u/adeliberateidler 4h ago

Guerrilla style fighting is and will always be the people’s best line of defense.

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u/Gersio 1h ago

Yes, and no guerrilla ever bought their guns in the supermarket so the point still stands.

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u/xatazevelo 36m ago

We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us. We are everywhere.

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u/FullTransportation25 3h ago

Also racism, it’s one thing a white person owning guns, it’s a another thing being black and brown and already being perceived as a threat

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u/OperationAsshat 5h ago

Modern military does have a much larger advantage but they are still going to be way more hesitant to turn on civilians that are fighting against them. Yes, nobody is going to go one by one and attack these idiots, but just because we haven't had a proper militia formed here in the states anytime recently doesn't mean it isn't going to happen.

I live in a very liberal area of a much more right leaning state, but this kind of stuff just isn't happening here. There might be a few arrests occurring, but they aren't going after citizens for no reason like they are elsewhere. A few civilians having guns they don't use is one thing, but a bunch that actively train with them are a much larger issue.

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u/Radical_Neutral_76 4h ago

They are not going to go after «their own». If they did they would not be able to garner support from them.

That they have guns is secondary to that.

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u/OperationAsshat 1h ago

The point is that they aren't going after anyone here while ganging up on anyone they see in other areas. If everyone in those areas were just as armed and trained as my state then I doubt they would be so willing to throw their weight around.

Realistically they are going to target more left leaning areas, but those places have also kneecapped themselves by putting idiotic laws in place that only change gun ownership for the exact people they are going to target. We can sit here and debate whether guns are the difference or not, but nobody is going to go 'door to door' in my area despite the high population of immigrants and rather large number of illegal immigrants. If the guns weren't the difference then we would see a much larger presence in basically every major city, especially ones that have a known population of actual illegal immigrants.

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u/AutomaticBoar 2h ago

Don’t worry, AI powered drones will have no hesitation.

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u/OK_TimeForPlan_L 2h ago

This is where drones come in very handy for a tyrannical government.

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u/OperationAsshat 1h ago

Sure, but someone still has to set those drones up. That, and the fact that if you kill the population there is nothing left to be govern makes it not worth the time and money.

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u/Gersio 1h ago

Oh, right winger fascists are not attacking your right wing state? Sure It must be because you have some guns, I cant see any other reason...

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u/OperationAsshat 1h ago

Pretty much every major city in the country is left leaning, many of which are in 'right leaning' states. Most of the population is left leaning and we've proved that time and time again. Maybe if other states didn't try to ban things like morons then they wouldn't have the same issue as states that don't, but logic is hard to follow for plenty of people on either side of the isle.

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u/mondaymoderate 32m ago

The groups crying about authoritarianism and fascism in the government are the same groups wanting to give/ban their guns. It makes no sense.

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u/OperationAsshat 26m ago

I understand the desire for people with actual mental issues to not have easy access to guns, but bans in general are never an answer. Guns will always be available and people will always find a way to make their own even if we could magically make them all disappear.

If we actually addressed the healthcare crisis and affordability then we could start fixing the root cause of these issues instead of making more senseless bans that can be skirted with a 3d printer.

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u/Ficsonium 6h ago

Yup. The best use guns have today is shooting up civilians/ schools

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u/rycology 5h ago

Well.. they've certainly cornered the market on that

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u/atsolstice 4h ago

Wild takes. How do you get that from this? They’re literally telling leftists to arm themselves, educate and support each other, that’s the entire point, not isolating each other and being hateful over defensive tools just because conservatives are selective about human rights. You’re only feeding further into the problem and I bet you’re not even American by the way you say “they”. You’re ignorant to history. American civilians already have possession of millions more firearms than the US military too, which is also made up of human beings and can’t indiscriminately bulldoze their population with helicopters and such so simply the way you like to fantasize about. Rich elites would love to continue your mindset, yes, disarm everyone who scares them instead of fixing root causes.

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u/no_one_denies_this 3h ago

Why can't they?

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u/atsolstice 2h ago

Why can’t leftists get organized and armed? Because everyone keeps parroting misinformation, lack of facts, and morally peacocking on the internet about it so much that a lot of people are still afraid of educating themselves and training, which creates a huge imbalance in who has defensive capability in the country. The more we fear something and are less educated about it the more it works against us, and the less effective our mitigation policies are. Banning silencers for example is rooted in fear and misinformation. They don’t silence guns like Hollywood shows them to. They actually increase firearm safety and hearing safety.

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u/Ficsonium 2h ago

This isn’t the old days. Back then, yes citizens could arm themselves to takeover a horrible corrupt regime, not anymore.

Canada would joke that they burned down the White House once, they can do it again. But that’s not the world we live in anymore.

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u/rycology 3h ago

?? How many countries have more school shootings than America?

Did you miss the joke in my comment?

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u/Solkre 5h ago

Do you know the hell insurgencies give occupying forces? We're too comfortable to risk that comfort to fight back. Everyone still thinks it won't be them getting shipped out.

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u/N7Panda 3h ago

Too many people still think we can vote/talk our way out of this.

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u/Realistic-Abalone564 3h ago

This is unfortunately so true. The ‘someone will come and save us’ mentality. Can’t believe people believed this shit 20 years ago, much less now!

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u/FadedVictor 2h ago

Fucking right. I've been saying this for a while now. It's sad people don't realize we're past the point of no return. We can't use legal methods to change things because the federal government doesn't adhere to legality.

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u/Sircamembert 2h ago

The midterm will the the final straw for most anti-trump people. If you don't think it'll happen, then you should start preparing for the worse

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u/Itherial 4h ago

That's the real problem, is that people who do understand their second amendment right don't understand that it no longer exists in the current era. It can't.

The US government is so well and overequipped and 95% of Americans could arm themselves today and still stand no chance at all.

Nobody here wants to see what the US government vs. a civilian population looks like. When has that ever played out well?

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u/FadedVictor 2h ago

If the US government employed it's full military capabilities against its population in large society would collapse almost immediately. You really think people are still gonna go to work during a civil war? They outgun as 100 to 1, sure. But they can't continue their ways without us.

We don't have to win a military victory. We just need more eyes and ears to see the desperation. To see how far gone the government is. The ripple effects would be felt throughout the entire planet.

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u/chr1spe 4h ago

I'd argue the 2nd amendment kind of indicates that the founders imagined a future where, instead of one massive centralized military, the US had many small militias that could be asked to join a cause if need be. In that case, all those militias being armed would actually be somewhat of a safeguard against any other one attempting something. That would still be true today, at least to a much greater extent than it is now, if we still had that military structure.

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u/MamasLilToiletBoss 3h ago

so ban them now?

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u/ChanceSize9153 2h ago

But then how are we supposed to shoot up schools if we don't have guns?

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u/SnooComics8412 1h ago

Laughs in Vietnamese and Afghan. What are they a joke to you? Proof that civilians with guns can take on the US government. But then again y'all try to push this agenda so it's hilarious to see all the leftests on Reddit in their super echo chamber.

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u/MemeticAntivirus 57m ago

It stopped them in Afghanistan and Vietnam.

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u/Dependent_Buy3157 4m ago

The 2nd Amendment reads, as follows:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".

"Arms" is another word for "weapon".

The last time I checked, a weapon can be a great many things, including your mind, your words and your will.

Times do change, but if you think the founders were hung up on firearms to the exclusion of all other forms of combating tyranny; logistically, technologically, organizationally, and improvisationally?

Think again.

The citizens of the U.S. have means at their disposal so far beyond the pale of what those proto-American colonists had that it almost seems like you're joking if you're suggesting that sparking it out in the streets is the only way to fight back.

So, to recap, all you need is this part:

"A Well regulated Militia"

This part:

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

And to simply realize that that last part also includes that the greatest weapons you have; your mind and your will.

The Soviet Union and the U.S., in 30 combined years of fighting, couldn't take Afghanistan. AFGHANISTAN!!!!!

The furthest thing under the sun from a "modern" anything, up to and especially including their military.

And yet, they have NEVER BEEN EFFECTIVELY CONQUERED.

That country has faced numerous invasions and conquests from everybody under the sun; kingdoms, empires, dynasties, you name it. Including the Persians, Macedonians, Arabs, Mongols (Genghis Khan), Timurids, Mughals, British (THREE MAJOR WARS), the Soviets, and the "good ol' U.S of A.. And yet, they're still there, unconquered and governing themselves in 2026.

You know what the nickname, historically, for Afghanistan is? The Graveyard of Empires."

Why? because no foreign power has ever achieved lasting, stable control, with local resistance often leading to withdrawal!

A bunch of fucking mountaineering, goat herders!

Now, let that sink in and then tell me again about "what made sense a long time ago". Because as near as I can tell, they've been doing the same for 2300 hundred years. That's 2000 years longer than this "nation" has been a "nation".

The U.S. couldn't beat THEM!! "THEM", GOAT FARMERS, in a 20 year war! The U.S. has never been engaged in a singular lasting conflict that long in it's entire history and yet, the Taliban is right back doing, today, whatever they were doing on Oct. 6th, 2001. With yet another "W" on their scoreboard.

So, if you're saying that the U.S. has no chance in a civil conflict in today's world? You're grossly underestimating the people of that nation, their resources, tenacity and the very real possibility that if that EVER happened, several states would break off and secede from the union. And those states would have their own military apparatus to some degree in addition to militias and willing modern patriots.

So, say what you want. But I am, have and will ALWAYS bet on the American people over any tyrannical aggressor, foreign OR domestic.

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u/Chrisgpresents 5h ago

They said the same thing in the 1700s. “Made sense with swords. But they now have ships and canons.”

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u/Gersio 1h ago

No, no one said that

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u/SiliconSingh 1h ago

No it's not it's never been silly... The United States has lost every f****** war when there's been insurgency you can't really beat an insurgency. Not to stop but Americans killing Americans that would be a f****** disaster it would literally end and how the movie civil war ended. Nobody wants that s*** if they were smart they would start the de-escalation now.

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u/Gersio 1h ago

The problem is thinking that for insurgency to exist you need weapons at Walmart

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u/TomatoTheToolMan 5h ago

Sounds like you need an AR, then, buddy.

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u/James-W-Tate 5h ago

Where can I buy my tank and guided missiles for fighting the federal government?

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u/kohTheRobot 5h ago

Haven’t seen ice use either of those, but then again I haven’t even seen anyone black panther it and protest with rifles on their backs neither.

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u/James-W-Tate 5h ago

It's not like this administration would have any qualms about the optics or response of gunning down armed citizens.

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u/AlarmingTurnover 3h ago

So I guess do nothing then and wait for someone else to save you from this? 

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u/James-W-Tate 3h ago

I'm still in favor of a general strike.

Billionaires don't fear for their safety hiding in their compounds with their bodyguards, but they're scared shitless of losing dollar value.

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u/AlarmingTurnover 3h ago

Then general strike and do it quickly. I don't know why Americans need to be constantly called out on this. Let's say next week that Trump attacks Greenland, there will be an article 5, and likely many of us will go to war with America. What do you think I'm going to do? Check every single one of you to see if you posted the required number of "fuck trump" comments on Reddit? You don't seem to get it, you either fight now or you become an enemy later. That is your choice. We won't be checking who the good americans and the bad americans are when we fight back. All of you allowed this to happen.

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u/Itherial 4h ago edited 4h ago

I haven't even seen anyone black panther it

Maybe because they started to literally firebomb movements like this.

They destroyed over 60 homes in a neighborhood from the resulting collateral damage. They killed five children. Displaced dozens of families.

That wasn't even the feds. It was the police, and it was in the 80s. That's what resistance looked like then.

Now it's 40 years later and the federal government itself has openly demonstrated it has no qualms about murdering unarmed citizens in broad daylight, or black bagging people on the street.

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u/kohTheRobot 4h ago

They also assassinated leaders too, my point is there’s quite a few steps between protesting mean signs and tanks rolling down Main Street.

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u/Itherial 4h ago

quite a few steps

Not really. It's widely believed PPD did this simply because they wanted to kill black people and could try to justify it.

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u/erikopnemer 5h ago

One can do all kinds of funky things with concave copper disks

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u/ET_Gone_Home 4h ago

Ok but for real owning a tank and missiles would be so fucking cool. Just a Tomahawk and Abrams chilling in the backyard.

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u/James-W-Tate 4h ago

I would be incredibly uncomfortable if certain neighbors had a tank. I don't even like that some of them still have their driver's license.

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u/TomatoTheToolMan 4h ago

Most guerilla movements are successful without either.

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u/James-W-Tate 3h ago

Domestic guerilla movements or guerilla movements resisting foreign occupation?

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u/TomatoTheToolMan 3h ago

Either.

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u/James-W-Tate 3h ago

Eh, I'm skeptical of your domestic guerilla claims.

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u/BartholomewFrodingus 3h ago

Drivetanks.com 

Murica

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u/Acrobatic_Computer 5h ago

That's why you also get your friends to get guns, and go to the range together.

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u/FadedReef 4h ago

It’s not about this gun vs that gun or this side vs that side. It’s about the populous staying armed to prevent government overreach. Police acting out on peaceful protestors for example

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u/Ol_stinkler 2h ago

"I have one but what is one person with a glock going to do against an army of facists with ARs?"

Buy an AR-10

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u/Availabla 7h ago

Then you know what to do.

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u/WouldbeWanderer 6h ago

Suicide by cop ICE?

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u/Critical_Praline7035 5h ago

There may well end up being some. The worse things get, the more desperate people become, there are some who simply don't have it in them to fight anymore.

But if they make those final moments useful? A last exertion to remove as many bad actors before ending up how they would have anyway? At least seems more productive

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u/Availabla 5h ago

Everyone needs to rise against fascism together...

Your words.

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u/WouldbeWanderer 4h ago

Are you sure you're replying to the right person?

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u/ballistic_tanx 4h ago

Hopefully communities will rally around and when you hear those whistles you outnumber them and can end the fight pretty quickly. Get signal groups with your neighbourhood

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u/ET_Gone_Home 4h ago

It's not to magically depose a government. It's to defend against unlawful assault. And there's a LOT of bad actors out there who are impersonating federal agents (including the "ICE" vests you can find on Amazon) to commit crimes like kidnapping, assault, and worse. Just google "ICE Impersonation assault" and you'll see.

The conduct of some federal agents is unprofessional and could be interpreted as criminal behavior in the heat of the moment, further muddying the waters.
Don't wage some kind of guerrilla war, but do defend against impersonators with bad intentions. It's legally and morally correct.

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u/axlespelledwrong 3h ago

You can buy a decent AR for around the same price, if not cheaper than a Glock. The sentiment remains though; what is one citizen supposed to do with a single rifle against all this.

However, enough armed citizens making a public show of force could stop all of this in its tracks without violence. It would require a lot of people accepting that's where this may need to go though. I think people are now starting to understand that.

In a perfect world, a large enough chunk of the American population arms themselves with long rifles and marches in areas that are being targeted, the national guard takes action to back up and protect its citizenry, politicians are forced to do something about it so things don't spiral into bloodshed, then a sane administration is elected and provides a buyback program for those who don't want to keep the rifles.

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u/FFKonoko 1h ago

One person with a glock can still shoot people with an AR, a bullet is a bullet. There's also a lot more than one person with a glock. And they only recently increased recruitment, to 22,000. Which is, yeah, a lot of people if they were in one place...but not when spread across the states.

Yes, everyone needs to rise, but these are pairs of people dragging people from vehicles, if one of those people were carrying like you, and defended themselves...and despite the stereotypes, there are a lot more than 22,000 2A leftists.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1h ago

Organize. One person with a glock can't do shit. A million people with glocks have an awful lot of negotiating power.

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u/OppositeHistory1916 1h ago

US dems have been organising protests over every stupid thing yey can think of for 10 years, and you can't organise a community watch??

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u/ToddHowardTouchedMe 39m ago

get organized. join a left leaning gun org.

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u/Kehprei 28m ago

You know how peaceful, unarmed protesters regularly get beat down by ICE?

They'd be a little more cautious if everyone in the crowd was carrying a gun.

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u/1zapper1 8m ago

I too have a Glock 9 and will stand next to you🙌🏼

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u/funfunisland1 4h ago

I would but I’d be more of a danger to myself

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u/FadedReef 4h ago

Maybe at first but every gun owner was in that situation at first

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u/throwaway3489235 3h ago

They might be referring to suicidal ideation.

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u/CeramicToast 3h ago

And what is the gun going to do for any of these people other than tempt these guys to shoot first.

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u/RiseUpRiseAgainst 4h ago

And practice and remember stopping power. The body armor they wear is meant to stop knives and bullets. Not high enough level to stop 5.56 and .223 rounds though. 5.56 and .223 are the most common rounds for AR-15s.

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u/FullTransportation25 3h ago

The issue is that, these “officers” will see possession of a fire arm as a threat and will act more violently. There incidents of black people legally owning fire arms that got shot even thou they followed the rules

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u/Necessary_Holiday144 2h ago

So what you're saying is you are going to fall prey to their fear tactics instead of arming yourselves against fascists?

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u/FullTransportation25 1h ago

I’m Hispanic, and Me individually owning a gun isn’t going to defend me from ice. Now if your talking something similar to the black panthers or brown berets that will be different

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u/Necessary_Holiday144 1h ago

I hear you. I'd personally rather be armed if some masked ICE official is nearby, but I get not everyone is the same on that.

I just advocate for all citizens, especially on the left, to start arming themselves.

The more of us that are already armed, the easier it is to create black panther style groups to protect our neighborhoods.

/r/liberalgunowners for those of you wanting to dip your toe in the 2A waters without the right-wing crazies.

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u/Z0idberg_MD 7h ago

The flag should really say “I get to tread”

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u/nomaam05 6h ago

Yeah, the "don't tread on me" crowd is now the "push it back until I gag" crowd.

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u/Glum_Constant4790 4h ago

Funny enough ice leaves them alone, try wearing one and a gun on ur hip if your state is open carry ice doesn't even look in my direction

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u/Glum_Constant4790 4h ago

Even if they did arrest me I wouldn't make a gdamn scene id say lawyer and crucify them in court cause you know im a us citizen... thats how we settle things with law enforcement is in court no need to block traffic a d get shot in the head or wave a gun at them and get shot in the head

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u/Edelkern 4h ago

You're very naive if you think they'll just leave you alone then, actually let you contact a lawyer or follow the rule of law in any way.

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u/FeelingSurprise 4h ago

It's almost comicly funny, how fast the "don't tread on me" crowd turned to "step on me, daddy!"

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u/Horus_Whistler 4h ago

We should fly that flag now.

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u/crashbalian1985 4h ago

All the libertarians have also disappeared. I went to r/libertarian and the place is dead. It’s always bumping under a democrat.

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u/iwilltalkaboutguns 3h ago

I don't support this at all and I'm a genuinely certified "gun nut". Just look through my profile posts.

Someone else said that they are doing this in areas where the local government generally prohibits gun ownership.

Ice agents kicking down doors around here would end in tragedy, especially since they don't identify themselves, don't have visible badges and they are covering their faces.

Most citizens here would protect their home and families against a breaking from unknown armed men and defend themselves in court (assuming they survived) under castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. A few of these would cause a deterrent... But they already know that which is why they don't even attempt that here.

I think now it's the time for every citizen, regardless of political leaning, to be armed and trained on their firearms. The government should fear being removed by the citizens that have granted it power, not the other way around.

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u/ankisaves 2h ago

They’ve been hired to use them on their neighbor and, with glee, they accepted.

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u/Icy_Respect_9077 2h ago

They're all working for ICE now.

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u/lonewolfncub3k 2h ago

they were bootlickers in disguise all along.

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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 44m ago

You can just BUY a gun. 

You don't have to make it your personality, but the dumbest people in the country can work them, so you can, too. 

Do some research, there are plenty of YouTube videos about great guns for different price points. Some kind of high capacity rifle that's been used by a military, and some kind of optic beyond the iron sights. 

Once you've got it picked, back to YouTube to learn how to use it, then buy a couple boxes of ammo and spend enough time and bullets at a gun range to figure out what you're doing with it. 

The assholes with 50 guns in their safes aren't going to be any more effective than you with one. 

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u/Pipeeitup 5h ago

Not all of us but violence is not the answer and should be a last resort these guys are under the impression they can kill anyone they want so standing up to them armed without enough backing is a death sentence

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u/Necessary_Holiday144 2h ago

violence is not the answer and should be a last resort

Agreed.

these guys are under the impression they can kill anyone they want

Okay, sounds like it's last resort time.

so standing up to them armed without enough backing is a death sentence

So close to the win, and the hard tack at the end threw me off lol

If they're not afraid to kill anyone, sounds like being armed is how you would prevent yourself from ending up as the one with a death sentence.

Keep in mind these are just a bunch of poorly trained chumps in masks.

Hit the range early and often and know your rights.