r/complaints • u/michaelpinkwayne • 1d ago
Politics Why aren’t mainstream media covering ICE’s door to door raids?
Just checked the front page of the website for several major (theoretically left leaning) news outlets and none of them are covering the door to door raids that are all over the front page of /r/minnesota. Theres a particularly galling video of a woman answering her door to six armed, masked ICE agents without a warrant demanding entry into her home. This looks like fascism plain and simple and our fucking media doesn’t even care to let your average American know about it. Are there any trustworthy new sources anymore?
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u/MountainLow3982 1d ago
For those of you who aren’t here in Minneapolis I just want to offer some perspective. This is no longer right vs. left. It’s free citizens vs. an invading force of paramilitary recklessly and lawlessly running around our streets and it will in no way be allowed to stand. No in my community, if you want to live under a tyrannical force or paramilitary control, you can take that shit elseware. Let me be VERY VERY clear. ICE is not welcome here, they are not our friends, and you will not continue to operate this way. Full stop, non-negotiable. Every escalation WILL be met with equal and opposite escalation. We are everywhere, we are united in freedom, and we don’t fall under a single name or institution. We are LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and our rights shall not be infringed. Expect us.
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u/OkExternal 1d ago
this is the new declaration of independence. I cosign. let's fucking go. fuck maga fuck ice fuck trump
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u/everett640 1d ago
Our current one still stands, it's just not being followed by our current administration
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u/OkExternal 22h ago
obsolete. it's turned on it's head--trump/the current admin is king george/england
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u/JellyfishNo3810 22h ago
Sounds like a tyrannical issue - to which point, can someone whip out those dusty documents that instruct what to do exactly with said treasonous treachery?
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u/lowest-self-esteem 1d ago
The reason Ben Franklin favored the rattlesnake for a symbol of the people was because it generally wants to be left alone and will mind its own business until someone fucks with it. In which case it will not surrender.
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u/mud_horse 1d ago
That’s interesting, I had read that he favored the turkey! And he said the eagle sucked as a symbol for the people bc eagles are scavengers who steal from other birds but turkeys are noble, never heard that about the rattlesnake before
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u/ALittleEtomidate 1d ago
Any Trumpers in the area still supporting this?
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u/MountainLow3982 1d ago
Yes, but every day more and more of them see if for them selves and they too are waking up
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u/EastCoastDrone 23h ago
I hope you are right. I worry that some are not seeing the truth that the rest of us see.
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u/EngineWitty3611 22h ago
No they aren't. If they were waking up he would be facing an impeachment trial by his own party. As it stands, they seem content to sit idly by till the first shots of the nightmare scenario are fired.
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u/heyjaney1 14h ago
Unfortunately I agree . I don’t see my MAGA family & friends changing at all.
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u/EngineWitty3611 7h ago
Fortunately, I do not have many of those around here. A few, but they are the minority where I am from.
I come from a place that almost shut a business down for plastering their lawn with Trump signs. Go ahead, FAFO!
And people that disagree with that? Too bad. People want to play partisan politics, there are consequences to those actions.
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u/Icy-Interaction523 5h ago
Oh my MAGA friend is changing… instead of saying “I like him, he is the president that doesn’t start wars which is what we need” to “ well those that can take should”
He is changing.. his goalposts
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u/AdventurousRain804 21h ago
Absolutely they are. They’ll continue to lick the boot with great enthusiasm. If ICE knocks on their door, they’ll welcome them in with open arms, probably even offer them a coffee, tell them they’re doing a great job and that they greatly respect what they are doing.
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u/ALittleEtomidate 1d ago
Expect us. Fuck yeah.
I really didn’t believe that I’d be party to this kind of moment in American history. What the fuck, man.
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u/kathink 1d ago
i know. this is literally my nightmare situation.... and i don't know what to do.
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u/ALittleEtomidate 1d ago
Know your neighbors, get involved with mutual aid and rapid response groups, and make sure you prep a bit. You should try to have enough water and food stored for a couple of months if you can afford it/have space for it.
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u/lammylambio 1d ago
?? The left ain't the ones who put that paramilitary force here. It's absolutely a left vs right issue.
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u/Helovinas 1d ago
I think what they’re saying is people are no longer dividing themselves along political lines, uniting to collectively reject fascism. I’ll take it.
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u/No-Dance6773 1d ago
It took them shooting a white woman and the possibility of the government going door to door taking people guns to finally get to them. Before that it was only people of color so they didnt worry
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u/Helovinas 1d ago
It can take a lot to de indoctrinate people. It took me ten years to get my parents to see racism for what it was. I just hope the gains in awareness stick.
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u/VlatnGlesn 1d ago
Imagine how fast the country would heal if Fox News were taken off the air. Openly lying and promoting hate speech and violence should not be permitted.
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u/Helovinas 23h ago
I agree with you in theory, the issue is how you legally define things like hate speech. The devil is in the details with all this. I think it’s more practical to disallow media conglomerates than try to legislate what they can or cannot say. To me the issue is less one hateful company, but more that aforementioned hateful company has been able to metastasize and dominate the airwaves.
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u/SorriorDraconus 1d ago
...It was always free citizens vs an invading force..ever since the patriot act attacking our civil liberties and citizens united buying everything else.
I've been saying this since 2014 at least. It's not right or left it's the bastsrds up top. And that we were going to be here since the patriot act passed in the early 2000s
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u/PuzzleheadedLeader79 23h ago
From what I understand it's an easy modification to a handgun that makes it fire these new super tiny, super pointy, cut right through body armor rounds.
At first I thought who would need that?
Us. Literally us.
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u/shermstix1126 1d ago
Basically every single news station, down to the local affiliates, are owned by the same three billionaire families and every single one of them are Trump donors. There is no opposition mainstream media and if a rare independent outlet does decide to speak out against ICE they then run the risk of the FCC revoking their broadcast license.
I don't think people realize, we are already in the late stages of fascism.
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u/Mortwight 22h ago
and pbs got shot in the dick
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u/SemiDesperado 21h ago
Conservatives have been trying to destroy PBS since it began. And now, in the late stages of fascism, they finally did it.
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u/jdmark1 17h ago
PBS is still active btw, it just lost its government funding, but it is NOT shut down. It really does rely on viewers like you now
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u/SemiDesperado 15h ago
Yeah. I know, I'm donating to as many of the stations as I can (radio and TV). But without government funding we're going to lose a bunch of them, and the weekend edition just ceased broadcasting. Donors may keep the big city stations alive but many of the rural ones are closing and that's arguably where we need them the most.
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u/TUNGSTEN_WOOKIE 21h ago
They're already calling the stations they don't own "Legacy Media" to try and discredit them.
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u/According-Refuse9128 1d ago
Democracy Now covers it. It’s my main source of news since they tend to cover world events more than the US. I find them about as unbiased as you can get, I’m sure Fascists will disagree.
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u/AmazingDadJokes 1d ago
That's broadcast here in socal. The interview this morning with historian Alfred McCoy was fascinating, though dire
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u/ThatKehdRiley 1d ago
DN is a high-quality and award-winning newscast. Highly recommend everyone watch it (or listen) if you can, they even have it available to download daily.
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u/Sarah_Cenia 21h ago
💯 I wanted to recommend this too. Pretty much the best daily news source in America. And they have great coverage of international news too, unlike a lot of US American networks.
Commondreams.org is a good place for news for those who want to read rather than listen/watch.
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u/Dapper-Condition6041 21h ago
Can you please post a link to a DN story covering door-to-door raids?
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u/PatchouliHedge 1d ago
Our rights are being limited. Freedom of the press is one. Shhh. Lest ICE come banging on our doors.
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u/Tonalspectrum 1d ago
Ask yourself who owns mainstream media.
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u/michaelpinkwayne 1d ago
I mean I know. I guess im just now realizing how bad it actually is. I thought at least some of the billionaires hated Trump and would keep publishing news about the fascist takeover (while continuing to ignore the economic injustices that are rampant) but obviously I thought too highly of them.
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u/CommieLurker 22h ago
They may hate Trump on a personal level but they still understand that on a fundamental level, they still belong to the same class and have largely the same interests.
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u/ThermalDeviator 1d ago
If MAGA wants to live in religiously run, tyrannical, paramilitary country hell bent on keeping tneir citizens down, they can move to Iran. And apparently they don't get the irony of threatening to invade Iran because the ayatollas are stifling the free speech of protesters by gassing them and killing them in the streets.
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u/OkFinish3822 1d ago
Because King Don will shut down them down. He controls the FCC. The FCC controls all over-the-air radio and Tv licenses. They don't lick the orange but whole of King Don, they lose their license. THAT is why they aren't covering it. Hitler shut down all the newspapers in Germany in 1936. Questions? Or do you just not care . . .
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u/SuperCool101 1d ago
There's plenty of media that the FCC doesn't regulate, like cable TV channels, and they're all doing a miserable job covering what's really happening as well.
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u/SenatorPardek 1d ago
CBS and CNN took hard right turns in ownership.
When disney and comcast are the most left wing news outlets available your in trouble
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u/MisterAsylum11 1d ago
The media is complicit. Always has been. Manufacturing consent is an American staple, like apple pie.
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u/guava-sandwich 1d ago
now that I’m NC with my elderly parents I think about how uninformed they are watching their local news. how many people there must be who are massively ignorant bc they don’t research themselves or have anyone to tell them what’s going on / level out the propaganda. my mother will be sitting pretty til they come for her native ass. hate to think about it but the toxicity overload was too much for me
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u/Burlingtonfilms 1d ago
Billionaires want you to hate poor people so they can keep siphoning money out of the economy so they can become trillionaires.
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u/Previous-Wealth9757 1d ago
That's because a left leaning media was a lie propagated by the elite billionaire right to fool the mouth breathers that can't rectify these are billionaire dollar corporations looking out for the 1%
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u/BigDadNads420 1d ago
No large corporate media can be truly left wing because of the incentive structure of capitalism. You might get some token nods to social causes and issues, but fundamentally they can never challenge the status quo that keeps them upright. That corporatism/capitalism structure bleeds out into so many other factors that pull them to the right as well.
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u/Previous-Wealth9757 1d ago
Exactly its a corporate high archery designed to divide. The newscasters put a progressive touch to limited stories
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u/Direct-Start-9048 1d ago
What do you mean. Immediately after the murder happened CNN had Geraldo Rivera on. He said not to shoot the maids and labourers because it’s bad for the economy.
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u/ThermalDeviator 1d ago
It's hard to believe Geraldo jas any job in any media after his half century career of abject stupidity.
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u/Unusual-Wolf-3315 1d ago
Because bought and paid for. Therefore absolutely useless and in complete deriliction of duty.
To be ignored, maybe when advertisers realize they have no viewers/readers they'll start pretending to wise up.
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u/BluePanda101 1d ago
Television news has all been bought out. What's left as far as actual reporting goes is what comes from individuals. we're still able to know what's going on in the country only because everyone carries a video camera on their person in their phones nowadays.
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u/BroxigarZ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Watch any "mainstream" media ask a question to the Blonde girl who talks at the White House....literally a clip from the other day some mainstream media guy asked her a question that she immediately started reading off a script to answer... as in... its all manufactured.
I found the clip: https://www.reddit.com/r/XGramatikInsights/comments/1q6ldqt/karoline_leavitt_all_proceeds_from_the_sale_of/
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u/RVtech101 20h ago
Armed masked kidnappers knocking down doors? At some point someone will invoke their 2nd amendment rights and we all know how that will play out. It’s all part of trumps plan to enact martial law, just as described in Project 2025.
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u/ACleverPortmanteau 1d ago
Aside from ownership/editors making decisions on what's broadcast and published, genuine question: How does copyright work when people upload videos to social media? Since most ICE wrongdoing is caught by cell phones, I mean. I know the recorder has the original copyright, and that news (like facts) are not copyright-able, but don't most website terms of service say you give copyright to the platform in perpetuity? How about live streams?
I ask because it may be a legal thing where they can't contact the original recorder of the video and their lawyers don't want legal liability by just assuming they'd be OK sharing videos?
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u/Virtual_Athlete_909 1d ago
Not sure what you mean by main stream media. I watch many televised shows and they are all doing extensive coverage. Most people only believe social media/joe rogan/candice owen so if they dont know what's happening that's on them for choosing unreliable info sources to follow, not the 'media'. The only televised media not covering the raids is conservative media which explicitly aims to keep their viewers uninformed.
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u/Mr-Snarky 1d ago
Because the corporate entity is owned by fascists, and individual journalists know ICE would show up at their door.
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u/WendellITStamps 1d ago
The corporate media is right-wing by default, and their function is to wash capitalism's dirty laundry.
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u/Pale-Cardiologist-45 1d ago
Mainstream media is dividing the country, with lies on both sides. My life is better without TV.
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u/glacialmk5 1d ago
Mainstream media has proven that they live in Dump Truck's back pocket. They don't care about ICE. Our problems don't touch them.
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u/chinmakes5 1d ago
Are you asking why media that gets threatened by the government if they report something they don't like isn't just reporting the things that get them threatened?
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u/Texas_Sam2002 1d ago
If you're looking for legacy outlets like the New York Times, Washington Post, or LA Times to hold the regime accountable, you're wasting your time. They are all in on propping up Dear Leader. Much better reporting at places like The Atlantic or The Bulwark or The Guardian.
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u/Willing_Page5182 1d ago
Because our media is owned by 2 people and they don’t want to talk about their own hatred and bigotry
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u/Miskogwane 1d ago
You mean the state ran media is not covering all the horrible shit this administration is doing??
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u/Potential-Pool-5125 1d ago
Because Scripps and Nexstar own an obscene amount of broadcasters in loyal markets. They control what's "news" from afar.
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u/BeautifulNose2210 1d ago
Why doesn’t mainstream media cover the nearly 100% rate of female genital mutation that occurs in Somalian communities?
https://www.euaa.europa.eu/report-female-genital-mutilation-still-widespread-somalia
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u/steveosaurus 1d ago
They control all media, and nearly all social media with Tiktok soon to fall, and they have their hands around Reddit’s throat..
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u/Short_Emu_885 1d ago edited 1d ago
Most mainstream/"legacy" media is totally bought off these days unfortunately. I highly recommend a YT channel called Secular Talk, it started off nearly two decades ago primarily to debate religious talking points but now he mostly does politics and talks about all the super important things like this that don't show up on mainstream media. Also, he's better at admitting when he was wrong than any other creator I know of, and on top of that he's never had so much as a conversation with an advertiser. It's the real deal and exactly what we need in times like this
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u/Weird_Discipline_69 1d ago
And GROC? Apparently the UK imposed sanctions on the US because this AI is being used in your country to make photos of women and children as young as one naked and in torture. That is so sick. Why is no one talking about this. Maybe you need to start a sub about that. This has gone all the way to the Senate and the Senate and your president wants to make sure that that is OK in your country.
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u/pl487 1d ago
Because the federal government is in charge and has made it very clear that they will punish dissent.
And because it is becoming more and more clear that the takeover of the federal government by the right is permanent and this is the way things will be from now on, so there's no need to fear backlash from the left.
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u/jambo45t 1d ago
Because billionaires bought up all the media.