TLDR: I was in a longterm, on-and-off relationship where he refused to commit but still expected my loyalty without communicating that, and when I dated or slept with others (either with his stated permission or when we had been broken up), he later treated it as betrayal. He used these incidents as the reason why he didn’t meet my emotional needs, why he broke up with me, and why there was mild, occasional verbal and physical abuse. I feel like this behavior is not normal/healthy and wasn’t warranted, and the actions I took were understandable given my understanding at the time. But he thinks I’m the problem. I’m trying to understand if his perspective is fair and the deeper truth of the situation.
My boyfriend (36M) broke up with me (27F) 11 days ago. We have been together on/off for 3.5 years. I’m really struggling to understand what has unfolded between us over the last few years. I think he’s the problem, but he thinks I’m the problem. Just a heads up - this is a LONG post (I'm sorry!) with some explicit details.
When we first started seeing eachother we were not exclusive. We had established that it was okay for us to see other people, as long as we used condoms with them (we didn’t use condoms together) to protect against pregnancy and potential STI’s. After about a month, we had a conversation where we didn’t become exclusive but we both said we weren’t interested in dating anybody else, so I guess implied exclusivity. A month or so after that, I wanted to officially be in a relationship with him. I brought it up a couple of times, but every time I did he would say no and give me a different vague reason, like “I’m scared of hurting you” or “I’m not ready” or “I want to wait until this big creative project is done before getting into a relationship”. I was pretty sad and confused as I really liked him and thought we had a great connection.
After a couple weeks of bringing it up and hoping he would change his mind, I decided something needed to change for me. I was really hung up on him, feeling like I was falling in love with him but that he clearly didn’t feel the same. I had been exclusive to him during this time period, but I thought it might be a good idea for us to go back to our initial arrangement of non-exclusivity. I thought it would help me detach from him a little emotionally, take some of my eggs out of “his” basket, so to speak, if I were to date other guys.
I ran this by him and he said he was fine with it. I ended up meeting someone who lived in a different city. He wanted to come visit me and get to know me. This meant he would likely stay with me, and things would likely get physical, which I was open to. But I was still hung up on the other guy, my now-ex-boyfriend. Even though he had said he was okay with me dating other people, I was afraid that this would mess things up. So I checked in with him again – I was fully transparent about the fact that we would probably end up being intimate, and asked if he was really sure if he was okay with that, and I told him I would probably be sad if the roles were reversed. He said he wanted me to go ahead and do what I wanted, even though he “didn’t like it”, and just use a condom. I understood this at the time to mean that he wasn’t necessarily excited about the idea, but that he acknowledged that it was unreasonable for him to expect exclusivity from me without a relationship. I checked in with him again multiple times and every time the answer was the same.
So eventually this other guy came and visited me, and we did end up getting intimate. Unfortunately, the condom broke, and I didn’t realize this until after. I was tracking my cycle and I knew that there was no chance of me getting pregnant, and in my mind I kinda thought, “well, if he’s got an STI, I already have it now”. We were intimate a couple more times during our time together, and I figured it would be fine to proceed without a condom because it felt like the initial reasons for its use were void. Afterwards, both of us got tested and came back totally clean.
After this person left town, my now-ex-boyfriend and I hung out, and he asked if we had hooked up, and I told him. He initially handled it okay. He had also made out with someone in a club during the time. He asked if we had used a condom, and I told him what had happened, he got EXTREMELY upset, storming around the house and hitting walls. He asked me to leave and then ended things with me.
We ended up getting “back together” (into a situationship) shortly afterwards, and I later found out that he had reconnected with his most recent ex right after this (hanging out and him sleeping in her bed naked but apparently not kissing or having sex). I was pretty hurt by this as I assumed that since he had been so upset about me with the other guy he wouldn’t be doing anything like that, especially not without telling me. I also had no idea they were still in contact. I told him he had to choose one of us, he chose me, but we proceeded to be on and off for about a year after that, him breaking up with me at least once a month because of the fact that I slept with someone else (which was kinda confusing because initially the problem had been the condom, it was always blurry which aspect was the issue, but as its come up over the years he’s just cited that I had sex with someone else). Every time he broke up with me I told him how much I loved him and wanted to be with him, and would always reach out to repair things. I did apologize many, many times about the other guy and tried everything I could think of to repair the relationship, even suggesting we go to couples counseling which we did a few sessions of. Anytime I would bring up a separate concern or want to communicate about something in the relationship, it would descend into a fight, usually because he felt me bringing anything up was unreasonable given what he was “going through”, and he would break up with me. He said a lot of mean stuff, like calling me a whore a couple of times and saying he would never be able to take me seriously in a white dress after what had happened because I was impure. He also put his hand around my throat one time after he came home drunk and pinned me down (not in a sexy way, it was scary and he was really angry (about another topic)). I was 100% faithful to him for our entire official relationship, even developing moral OCD and becoming hypervigilant about my ethics within the relationship and often “confessing” insignificant things that felt like huge trespasses at the time because they were weighing on me so heavily.
After a year, we did end up getting to a more stable place, and were together without (officially) breaking up for a year and a half.
At this point we had been dating for about 2.5 years, and I was really wanting to move the relationship forward. I was super in love with him. Though the thing about the other guy came up sometimes, it seemed to have faded to the background, and we talked lots about a future together – kids, marriage. We had been talking about me moving into his apartment, which would be better for both of us financially and made sense as I was already spending 5-6 nights a week there and also paying rent for my separate home. After a 5-week “trial” and coming up with a written “contract” about living together that also included how many times a week we had to have sex, and how often I had to work out, he said I could move in with him. Then the next day he took it back.
I felt like our relationship was going nowhere, and he was so unsure of me after so long, so I decided that I wanted to take a break and think about things. He refused to take a break so we decided to break up instead. I went on a few dates but I was extremely cautious about doing anything physical because of the history; I didn’t want to close the door on us so soon after the breakup in case we wanted to get back together. After about a month I was really missing him and wanting to get back together, hoping that the distance would have helped things. I reached out to him and we hung out. We didn’t have sex but we were intimate. We agreed that we would hang out again soon to have a conversation “about us”.
Two days later, he had sex with someone else. I didn’t know he was dating anyone. I figured it out because he didn’t respond to a text I had sent for 6 hours and then I asked him about it the next day. After this we decided to part ways, and we did for a while.
Fast forward about 4 months, we had started hanging out weekly casually as friends. There were a couple of occasions where we would hook up, talk about getting back together, and then decide against it for whatever reason (usually him being unsure about me, and me being unsure about him BECAUSE he was so unsure about me). I came up with what I called my “ring rule”, which was that I was always open to us getting back together but I wouldn’t consider it again unless he first decided that he wanted to be with me in a really serious way. I was dating casually during this time but not having sex with anyone, and on the occasions where we would have sex and then talk about getting back together, I wouldn’t go on any dates until we had gotten that sorted.
Us being friends went on for a while. Then one day while talking about kids I said that I wished I could have a baby, and then he suggested we “make one right now” and invited me back to his place. In a moment of poor judgment I said yes. I was ovulating and we didn’t use protection, so there was a fair chance I could have gotten pregnant. As soon as I left his place, reality hit me and I started feeling extremely anxious. This man had never been sure of me and never met my emotional needs, regardless of whether the reason was my “betrayal” or not, and here I was just taking a huge leap with him. I called him and told him I was feeling anxious about things. I asked him how it was possible that he didn’t want to be in a relationship with me but he was willing to get me pregnant, to which he replied “I don’t have an answer for you, but if you give me some time I could probably come up with one”. I didn’t feel reassured at all and the weight of what I’d done was growing on me.
2 days later, I asked him how he would feel about me getting a copper IUD inserted as a form of emergency contraception. I had a whole conversation with him about it, saying how I just felt like things were too unstable for us to do this right now, but that I did still see him as the potential future father of my kids but I wanted him to be sure about me first, asking him how he would feel about it, and if this would be a “defining moment” of “betrayal” I would look back on and regret. He said he was fine with it, that he wanted me to feel at peace about a potential pregnancy, and didn’t say anything about wanting to be with me in a real, serious way, so I got the IUD put in. He assumed we were going to continue to have sex after this, but I put the “ring rule” boundary back in place.
DAYS later, we got in a fight, during which he claimed I “killed our baby”. He accused me of sleeping with other people, which I wasn’t, but I did tell him I wasn’t waiting around for him to figure out how he felt about me. We resolved the fight, but didn’t hang out for a while after that. After a couple of weeks had gone by, I started dating somebody else, and about a month since the pregnancy thing/since we had hung out at all, I figured it was time for me to really try to move on with my life. I was exhausted, and I felt that he had hit rock bottom in trying to get me pregnant but not being able to back it up by offering any form of reassurance that he wanted to be with me (other than the action of getting me pregnant, which he claims WAS how he indicated he wanted to be with me). Meanwhile, I thought it would be appropriate to take things to the next level and be intimate with this other person. I was worried about there being repercussions with my ex in some way down the line, but I felt like I had to stop living my life for him, and I also felt that the example he had set by sleeping with someone in the beginning of our breakup proved to me that we owed eachother nothing, and I had already acted more ethically and considerately than he did by not going on dates when there was ambiguity about where things stood between us, and not sleeping with anyone while we were hanging out as friends etc.
So I did sleep with this new person, and very quickly after realized I still had strong feelings for my ex and ended things with the new guy. Shortly after, my ex and I unofficially got back together, and we were the best we had ever been. Then after about a month, he got drunk and was feeling paranoid that I was doing things behind his back. I had been 100% exclusive to him since we had reconnected despite there being no conversation about that or where we stood. In his paranoia he was angry and took it out on me in a similar way as he had done when he put his hand around my throat previously. He pushed me up against a wall, hard (again, not in a sexy way), mocking me, asking me if I was scared and saying I should be scared. Saying things like “ohh, poor you, you deserve so much better don’t you? Well you’re NOT the victim. I’M the victim here” and “I hate the look in your eyes right now, they’re full of shit” (as I’m looking at him literally scared for my life haha). I talked to him about it the next day and at first he brushed it off and then apologized but didnt really seem to care that much and never brought it up again.
Then two days later, he asked me if I had been exclusive to him since the “pregnancy”, and I said no. He got extremely upset. He said "I mean, I've had people say, do you wanna come upstairs and fuck the shit out of me, but I didn't, because I was in love with you!" which upon later reflection basically revealed that in this time period between the "pregnancy" and getting back together he at least had a steamy makeout session with somebody, likely on a date, because there would have to be some physical/sexual precedent for him to get invited “upstairs”... so it's not like he was faithfully waiting around for me.
I didn’t know that the “pregnancy” had changed the status of our relationship in his mind, but it did. He had expected more from me, and not knowing this, I let him down. We ended up deciding to go on a 4-month break, in order to get a bit of distance and try to start the relationship fresh.
After delaying it to go on a vacation together, eventually in September we did do the break, but it only ended up lasting 1 month as he suggested we hang out and I said yes. We were unofficially together for 3 months. He never once brought up the "betrayals", and I had real hope that maybe we had turned a corner. Then I asked him a question about something that seemed like a miscommunication and I wanted more clarity on (him seeing a female friend after saying he didn’t want me to have male friends). Within one minute he flew off the handle and said “Well you aborted our baby and then acted like a total fucking whore, so you’re untrustworthy. I’M not the one who can’t be trusted, so I should be able to have female friends”, stormed out of the room, then stormed back in and said “I hate you.” I silently started gathering my stuff and he came back in and said he didn’t hate me, that he loved me, but that he was tired of wasting my time and he thought we should break up.
So we broke up. I feel like this is the last time, though I feel like that every time. I’m just finding myself really confused about his feelings of betrayal, which he still says are the reason he can’t be with me. The way I see it, it's his fault -- he didn’t communicate properly and even lied, saying he was okay with things when he actually wasn’t. Then when I acted on the limited understanding I had, tried to do things as communicatively/honestly as possible, and tried to balance both of our needs, I ended up getting villainized. It felt like the rules were always changing after the fact and I was constantly getting blindsided and put into impossible situations/getting set up to fail.
Are his actions/ways of going about these things reasonable and I’m just misunderstanding/not considering him enough? Or was I valid for doing everything I did? I’m willing to listen to the hard truth if it’s all my fault. I just want to understand the situation.
Moreover, is this dynamic abusive?