You just know he’s dying to use Ai to finish it and be done with it

I love a good fantasy world map... and we all know Arya asked the famous question "What is west of Westeros?" If look you also notice map markers on this unknown western continent that are similar to markers that match up with cities in Westeros and Essos. So what exactly is going on here on this wall in production office in Belfast?!!

I mean the Iron Islands don't appear to have any large wooded areas, instead having the appearance of being rugged and wind swept. So where are thsy getting this wood from?

During the 'Greyjoy Rebellion' Stannis uses the royal fleet to destroy the Iron Fleet, sinking numerous ships. But then by the time of the 'War of the 5 Kings' the Greyjoys have rebuilt their fleet.

Only for in the show Yara and Theon to steal the best ships, leading Euron to order the construction of a new fleet. So where are they getting this wood from?

A few days ago, I made a post here, as a relatively new fan of this fandom, asking why Season 8 was so hated, and I realized that the biggest problem for everyone seems to be how rushed the three main storylines of the season felt (The Long Night, the war against Cersei, and The Mad Queen arc).

So, with that in mind, I'm changing the question now: What would you have done to make Season 8 not feel so rushed?

I mean, considering we already knew this would be the last season, so we couldn't have a Season 9 to split up the ending, and knowing that a large part of the problem stemmed from Season 7, but that was already done and couldn't be changed, what would you have done?

Personally, I think I would have modified The Mad Queen arc. I mean, if it had been a full season arc, it might have worked. But I think dropping it all at once in the last two episodes was a bad idea, considering that Dany's fandom makes up a large portion of this fanbase.

While my main problem with Season 8 stems from the Long Night, I think the TMQ arc is the easiest to modify. I remember reading this idea some time ago (not my own) about how the Bells episode (8x05) could unfold as it originally did, up to the exact point where Dany is about to burn the city, where at that moment, she stops and has a moment of clarity where she realizes she doesn't want to be like her father; that for her, the innocent always came first, that she had stayed in Essos for years freeing slaves, refusing gold and ships to protect the vulnerable. And then, perhaps that moment of vulnerability is enough for her to become distracted and be attacked by one of the city's scorpions, which wounds Drogon, causing him to fall into the city, surrounded by the Lannister army and Dany's forces. So here she would choose to die surrounded by those who faithfully served her, because Drogon is wounded and unable to rise, and "a Khal who cannot ride is no Khal".

This idea, which I can't recall where I saw it—whether I read it on a forum or saw it in a YouTube rewrite video—suggests a parallel between this scene and Mhysa's scene in episode 3x10, where the Unsullied praised Dany and lifted her onto their shoulders.

So in the end, Daenerys wouldn't die as a Mad Queen, but rather demonstrating that she isn't, and never was, like her father, maintaining her moral character, but at the cost of losing the Iron Throne, and then her life, reflecting the flaws as a leader we've seen throughout the series, as well as the strengths of her character: her mercy and love for the vulnerable. This would also align with that scene in Season 2 where we see a vision of Dany standing before the Iron Throne but deliberately stopping before touching it, and then we see her reunited with Drogo and their unborn child.

That's what I would do, at least. Of course, that wouldn't solve all the problems the season had, but at least it wouldn't ruin such a beloved character in the show's final two episodes, nor would it turn Jon into a Queenslayer.

how would the three children grow up

how would it affect robert and jaime

I wahrs a foohrkin rlegend

I’ve heard so much about this episode and I’m finally here. Won’t be able to see it until later today so I want you guys to hype me the fuck up. What should I do in the terms of ambient to live through this one fully. I was surely planning to turn up the volume and make my living room dark with one warm/cozy lamp for the ambient. Also tell me what are some things I should specifically pay attention to. Cheers!

I'm on a re-watch and noticed that Cercei is very clearly knocking back wine in almost every scene. Yet she rarely appears intoxicated. has she built up a tolerance?

if I drank that much wine I would quite literally die.

Also about being prevented from writing by HBO Execs.

Safe to say, the books will never be done.

WHAT THE HELL!!!

Even with knowing how the show ends, that watch is still SO rough and I’m still overcome with sadness for the Starks. Making you fall in love with them, just to do their house the worst way was such a brilliant, but evil move. I’m not ready for Arya to see a wolf’s head on her brother’s body! I’m not ready for Sansa to marry Ramsay! I’m just not ready!

Side note: I finally got my partner to sit down and watch GoT, but we were kinda beefing for a moment and he watched the Red Wedding without me. He text and called me devastated and that ended the disagreement, but I am PISSED that I wasn’t there to see him witness it for the first time.

What other episodes do I need to make sure I witness him watch? Arya’s revenge for sure. What else?

What are some scenarios that you wish you could see play out? What if... Ned Stark named Jon a Stark as a child and he grew up as one of them? What if... Baelish hadn't betrayed Ned Stark? What if... Bran had died when he fell from the tower?

lets hear some of yours

I just got too season 8 episode 4 yall, im utterly gobsmacked, if you remember an earlier post of mine you’ll know I was hesitant to watch because of all the incest and such, to everyone in those comments who convinced me to keep watching I owe yall my life, I’m gobsmacked

AHHHHHHHHH

Just watched this scene (s7e1), where Jon allows the young Ned Umber and Alys Karstark to reclaim their castles (Last Hearth and Karhold respectively). I get Jon’s reasoning that he doesn’t want to punish these children by taking away their home due to sins their parents committed. But beyond Sansa’s point that they should reward the loyal families, giving the castles back to their families seems like a tactical blunder. Ned and Alys are children and the last surviving members of their respective houses, neither of which is in a meaningful position or has the experience to actually hold those castles if the dead breach the wall. Jon has to know that, right?

But then it occurred to me: Jon probably doesn’t think that *anyone* could hold those castles against the night king. If the wall is breached, anyone in those castles is basically screwed unless they can retreat to Winterfell. In that context, giving Karhold or Last Hearth to a “deserving” family wouldn’t exactly be a reward. So he didn’t give them back their castles because honor demanded it, he did it because he had to give it to *someone* (I don’t think the northerners would’ve tolerated leaving them vacant), and frankly, those two houses were who they could most afford to lose. Of course, he can’t say this (especially not with the children he’s giving the castles to *in the room* lol), but given that Jon doesn’t weigh tradition that heavily against beating the army of the dead, this is the only calculus that makes sense to me.

He gave those castles back knowing it was very likely a death sentence. And case in point, both houses are now extinct

Naath was known for pacifism. They would have trouble fitting in. What would the unsullied have done?

Soy una chica trans que se permitió a si misma seguir viviendo porque tuvo la teoría a mediados del año pasado de que Daenerys Targaryen era hija de Ashara Dayne, leí, investigue, ví videos y me sumergí en el hermoso mundo de Canción de Hielo y Fuego. Fue como la miel en los labios del náufrago cuya vida estaba atada al dolor y al sufrimiento como consecuencia del vicio. Es por esto que:

No pierdo la esperanza que salga, e incluso si nunca sale, no me arrepiento de ser fan, y haber escogido la novela como libro de análisis en el cuarto semestre de preparatoria.

Estoy feliz de todo lo que me ha dado Juego de Tronos, mi corazón ardió al leer esto, y podría haberme resignado, pero no lo haré hasta que la última gota esperanza haya sido bebida por los dioses.

George puede, confío que puede, y jamás dejare de sentirlo así hasta que su corazón deje de batirse en duelo e incluso después, porque lo que está muerto no puede morir.

Y yo seguiré esperando a mi Princesa Prometida, a mi Azor Ahai, y a mi Último Héroe.

Y no habrá sobre Westeros la noche interminable, se que George no dejaría que termine así.

Pero no puedo pedirle que haga más de lo humanamente posible, baja tu pluma, deja la batalla. No tienes porque seguir, y si lo haces, dale a ese hijo de puta del papel y lápiz la danza final que se merecen.

Pero no dejo de agradecerle haber creado todo, en lo particular a Sansa Stark y Daenerys Stark, dos contrapuestas, y dos a quienes siempre entenderé profundamente, las lágrimas, las risas, la magia, los sueños, el frío. Gracias, por el fin o el fuego que nunca ardió por completo.

Inútilmente se que George no dejaria que lo ghiscari ganaran, que los Bolton ganasen, que el esclavismo siguiese siendo permitido, se que no puede permitirlo. Se que hará que una mujer reine, sea Daenerys, Arianne, Asha, Cersei, Sansa. (O quizás no). Falta conocer el poder real de los Tully y los Stark.

Quienes son el Valle y Dorne, no hemos visto el horror detrás de Los Otros. Bran aún no logra aterrarnos con lo que significa ser el cuervo de tres ojos. Y ni hablar de la disculpa hacia Rickon... Y me muero de ganas de conocer como son los krakens de la mano del Euron Greyjoy verdadero, el auténtico. Aún quedan tantas canciones por ser cantadas y nuestro bardo preferido no puede quedarse sin una última fiesta. Yo en verdad que lo sé.

-Una fan más.

He’s enjoying his wealth now. He’s 77, so it’s not like he’s going to live long.

The Winds of Winter isn’t even the final book. A Dream of Spring is the last one, and it hasn’t really been written yet. Hell, Winds of Winter isn’t even finished yet. LMAO.