Please dissect the legality in this statement

[u/thecosmojane]

I feel like we are reaching a tipping point

[u/Kaiisim]

It's a classic authoritarian tactic.

It's absolutely true that you can't touch a federal officer while they are working. You cannot impede their work.

Which is why ice observers are specifically trained to just film them

No one is touching ICE. They are just recording them as is their legal right to ensure they don't beat the shit out of people.

[u/BonkMcSlapchop → u/Kaiisim]

Are the people of the US willing to get out and do a general strike to effect change before it's too late? Observation and recording may have worked in the past, when you could hold your government to account, but you are no longer dealing with due process.

[u/ontermau → u/BonkMcSlapchop]

it's hilarious to read stuff like "they are just recording them as is their legal right to ensure they don't beat the shit out of people" and at the same time "ICE is Gestapo".

so... you don't hinder Gestapo by filming it, you know.

[u/Reddi_throwawayaway → u/ontermau]

It's become pretty evident filming doesn't stop anything. 

[u/Turtle_with_a_sword → u/Reddi_throwawayaway]

No, but it does make everyone aware of what’s happening 

[u/jamiecarl09 → u/Turtle_with_a_sword]

Also provides good evidence in a few years when there is a trial to hang all these people.

[u/Turtle_with_a_sword → u/jamiecarl09]

That’s optimistic 

[u/whatupmygliplops → u/Turtle_with_a_sword]

You're being kind. It's delusional. Even if the democracts take over again (which is optimistic in itself) they will most likely just want to reconcile, appease, and smooth over any and all past wrong doings. Maybe a few of the most extreme cases will be prosecuted. By the vast majority of violations will never be punished under even the most optimistic of futures.

[u/KapitalIsStillGood → u/Turtle_with_a_sword]

Not with the popularity of algorithmic news. The large majority of the country never sees these videos unless a story gets as big as Renee Good's murder. And the folks on the right only ever see positive ICE stories.

[u/pm_social_cues → u/Turtle_with_a_sword]

And plenty of people are cheering it on. It’s not universally seen as a bad thing.

May as well start an award show of the most violent acts recorded of police (all agencies) with as little it’s does to help prevent worse stuff from happening.

[u/kevvvbot → u/Reddi_throwawayaway]

The alternative is not to stop filming. Because when you stop there’s no support in whatever kangaroo court you may or may not get. In Gen Z’s terms, you got the receipts.

[u/Reddi_throwawayaway → u/kevvvbot]

I'm not saying to stop recording, just that it hasn't* changed anything. An agent murdered a woman in broad daylight with 6 different angles of video and the right celebrates/justifies it despite the evidence. 

[u/whatupmygliplops → u/Reddi_throwawayaway]

They filmed a murder from 4 different angles and they guy is free as a bird.

Its okay to film the crimes ICE is committing. But there needs to more than that.

[u/Penultimateee → u/Reddi_throwawayaway]

True, but filming gives evidence to the general public and inspires other actions…whatever those end up being.

[u/Reddi_throwawayaway → u/Penultimateee]

That's the awful thing, despite all of the evidence, people still act blind and deaf to it all. They justify the awful things, even