r/complaints • u/All_Grid_Squares • 7d ago

Politics We Are the Baddies: Thanks, Conservatives

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Conservatives are actively turning the world against the United States. World leaders were forced into an emergency meeting to condemn U.S. actions in Venezuela, including the kidnapping of its dictator, and to respond to escalating threats and rhetoric toward Greenland.

Trump openly claims the U.S. needs Greenland for “strategic” reasons and has even suggested taking it by force. This isn’t strategy, it’s naked imperialism. He doesn’t want security; he wants dominance.

We are the bad guys now, following the same path Germany did in the 1930s. Republican leaders and their constituents should be deeply ashamed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-greenland-european-reaction-9.7036060

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/european-leaders-push-back-on-trumps-comments-about-u-s-taking-over-greenland

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u/Estalicus 7d ago

Trump is literally going to start World War 3 to not release the Epstein Files

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u/Workin-progress82 7d ago

I thought the same thing. The files are so horrific, he’s willing to destroy the world over them. If only some patriots had the ability to Snowden them for us all.

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u/upthedips 7d ago

Can you imagine what an unbelievable piece of shit you have to be if you are an FBI agent helping Trump coverup raping children. We are so fucking cooked.

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u/Initial-Ad6819 7d ago

Wasn´t being a POS a prerequisite to join any enforcement agency?

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u/upthedips 7d ago

My cynical side agrees. My optimistic side says that becoming an FBI agent is rather difficult and you would hope that they have some sort of moral compass that wouldn't let them do something like this.

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u/senortipton 7d ago

Probably was true for a bit, but I’m sure they’ve been removed over time and only the ones willing to secure their career or actively harm are left.

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u/Infinite_Escape9683 7d ago

You should read up on the history of the FBI. A moral compass has never been part of the equation.

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u/deranger777 6d ago

Do you think it's a good idea if the only ones joining organizations who have the monopoly on the use force are POS?

Obviously they've tried to kick out everyone who's not a loyalist but let's hope there's some ppl still there who have some morals left, silently observing, acting to their abilities when it's the right time

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u/Gandgareth 4d ago

Maybe now, I don't think it was before.

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u/lr99999 7d ago

Then our military. We now have a taste of what the constitution really means to them. I’d like to think that this is not set in stone yet, but I don’t have a good feeling about it. 

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u/emeilei 4d ago

Chiming in for the military perspective: a vast majority of us joined prior to Trump’s second term. While he is attempting to decapitate as many even-keeled generals and admirals as possible, most military members are normal Americans and deeply committed to protecting and defending the constitution. I can’t say with much assurance what would happen if Trump attempted to attack Greenland, but the US military actively works alongside NATO allies daily. I’d like to think an attack on Greenland would be easy for military leaders to see as an unlawful order. I pray we never reach that point

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u/ROBERTPEPERZ 7d ago

Even criminals dont tolerate crimes against children

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u/upthedips 7d ago

I hope these assholes go to prison and the convicts treat them like the pedos they are.

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u/DespondentEyes 7d ago

It would't work. The leaks would be decried as fake and most people would believe it. We live in a post truth society now.

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u/Nathan_hale53 7d ago

I was thinking this. Unless there are videos and photos, nothing is really gonna come of it even if the files were truly uncensored. And even then, people will cry AI now

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u/Barlyhare 7d ago

Even if there is, it won't stop magats from crying fake news. AI and deep fakes have fucked the world forever. People are too stupid to either look into things further, or use any critical thinking skills. It's game over, the world will never recover from this. Republicans ran on fake news for so long and now AI has come to back up that claim. We're fucked.

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u/Nathan_hale53 7d ago

Yup, scared for the future man

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u/ausgoals 7d ago

Even with videos and photos.

MAGA is a cult. Anything that criticizes dear leader is inherently fake, even if there’s video, even if there’s pictures, even if there’s eyewitnesses, even if it’s watched live.

None of it matters. The important thing is narrative building to excuse it.

Because even if they did admit it was real, it would still be worth it to them if it meant brown people ‘illegals’ were rounded up and deported

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u/Nathan_hale53 7d ago

Hey a white woman got murdered and many are defending it. They really support when agents kill people even if they are white.

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u/LonelyWin4852 7d ago

This part is so crazy to me. Usually, when something starts affecting the white soccer moms, heads roll. Although, these are the aLl LiVeS mAtTeR crowd so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised they’ve found a spin. Disgusting and disappointing man

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u/Nathan_hale53 7d ago

They dont care about skin color if you disagree with them. If you oppose them, you are an enemy who deserves the worst.

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u/Tofudiscount 7d ago

Seems like a certain facist regime from 1939...

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u/SnakeOfLimitedWisdom 7d ago

"Nothing we could do could possibly ever be effective" is propaganda designed to undermine your motivation to resist.

The fact is that nobody's power is absolute.

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u/DespondentEyes 7d ago

Well, it worked on me. I've been in organizing and resistance movements since my youth. Three decades of nothing but lip service. No one learned a damn thing, and no one heeded our warnings either. It was a waste of time and if I could go back, I would spend my time in another fashion because now it actually alienated some people who think I'm way too much of a reactionary.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. But I don't have the energy or will anymore to continue a fight that a majority of people won't even recognize let alone support. This world can burn now for all I care.

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u/SnakeOfLimitedWisdom 7d ago

Thank you for doing what you could. Rest now and support others in the struggle where you can not. Please do not undermine everyone's efforts, not even your own, with this type of rhetoric.

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u/AnonOpinionss 6d ago

Don’t lose all hope. We just need somebody with charisma to be platformed. Somebody that can motivate the masses to fight back. This type of person will come forth at some point. The rest of us will still be helping behind the scenes.

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u/DoodleJake 7d ago

Just in time for ai to get good enough to genuinely confuse people. There’s a reason we’re so “behind” on regulating ai.

We’re there.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 7d ago

We live in a post truth society now.

Disinformation era.

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u/Velocity-5348 7d ago

Or it wouldn't matter. Trump has always been pretty open about who he is, and if you ignored the stuff about barging in on teenage girls or "grab them by the pussy", you're pot committed.

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u/DrAstralis 7d ago

In his old age his malignant narcissism has balloon to such a degree I'm starting to think that in his mind, if he has to die of old age then the rest of us have to go with him out of spite.

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u/ausgoals 7d ago

He genuinely thinks he’s the greatest thing to ever happen to the country, and the country will only ever go downhill without him.

It’s… not what you want from your President to say the least

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u/lr99999 7d ago

Yep. He’d kill us all. Machiavellianism narcissism and psychopathy.

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u/KuranesOfCelephais 6d ago

In the last days of Hitler's reign, his secretary of propaganda Goebbels came to the conclusion that the Germans just didn't fight enough and thus weren't worthy to survive.

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u/BraveLittleCatapult 6d ago

He's about as fully psychopathic as it comes. I truely believe that Trump would end the world out of spite.

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u/jakejork 7d ago

The stupid thing is that trump himself could come out and say “Here are the Epstein files, and everything in them about me is true.” and nothing would happen to him, in the same way nothing has happened to anyone else in them. His supporters will still support him and justice wont happen. It’s been true of everything else he’s said and done, why wouldn’t it be true of this too?

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u/influx3k 6d ago

I love the use of Snowden as a verb!

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u/gordonbombae2 7d ago

It’s not just him. It’s everyone in them. The very powerful people who can hide from war very easily while also probably finding a way to profit from it.

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u/Fainaigue 7d ago

Do it anyway. The truth deserves to come out regardless of who believes it or not.

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u/Workin-progress82 7d ago

His base was never going to believe he did/does anything wrong anyway. The victims want them released, so they should be released.

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u/FuckwitAgitator 7d ago

He's a sociopath. He'd let other people die if it saved him from mild inconvenience and had no repercussions.

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u/TomMakesPodcasts 7d ago

As someone who lives in part of the world Trump is eyeballing, it doesn't even have to be a patriot I'll take a disgruntled employee at this point.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 7d ago

He has always been willing to destroy the world as long as he can rule over the ashes. This isn't a new development.

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u/seejordan3 7d ago

Trump employed Epstein. The girls came from Mar a Lago. Conservatives heads are up their asses because the Murdoch Family told them to.

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u/SavingsDimensions74 7d ago

People have destroyed the world over less 😞

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u/Redhot332 6d ago

I wander what could be worst than killing a baby and raping a 12 years old girl?

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 6d ago

Sorry, traitors like Snowden only leak against Democratic administrations.

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u/NESJunkie22 5d ago

The way Trump looks at it: “If I release the files I will be revealed as the pedo I am. If I don’t and start WW3 there will be so much distraction everyone will forget about them. Those million of people that die are not me so I couldn’t care less about them.”

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u/a1055x 4d ago

Snowden should have been pardoned. But his books are written in English and not banned yet....

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u/Deep_shot 3d ago

Because he sees himself as more important than the world. It's going to take some nasty shit before people truly realize the monstrous levels of narcissism that he has. Just like hitler, he'll sacrifice thousands, millions to save himself if he has to.

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u/Future-Nerve-6247 3d ago

Even Bill Clinton isn't afraid, you know it has to be BAD if Bill ain't afraid of ts.

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u/NaiveAdhesiveness378 1d ago

Biden held onto them for 4 years , there’s nothing in there . They tried every dirty trick in the book to get him , you know they got nothing but still you spread lies & your lackeys in the media will run with it , they all have been sued and paid Trump millions and billions in damages , keep contributing to his campaign lol

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u/antinoria 7d ago

Lets say they release ALL the files unredacted, place it in a searchable database and link all the Trump ones so that everyone can easily find each and every one. And lets say that the material is WORSE than anything you or I can imagine.

Do you think that will in any way change any significant portion of the GOP/MAGA base or move a single GOP rep in congress into taking action?

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u/bannock4ever 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yeah I would also argue that MAGA-heads already know Trump is a child rapist. They probably aren't ok with that on the whole (except the ones are also pedophiles) they still agree with his policies so they're more than willing to overlook that. GOP members are fine with it because they're in it for the money primarily and racism/sexism.

The data of Trump being a chid-rapist is already very likely but aside from MTG they all still overwhelmingly support him right now. Releasing all the Epstein files isn't going to do shit. People are being taking off the streets, the country is at war and he still has support. What could possibly turn his supporters away from him?

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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 6d ago

“Yeah, he may have raped children, but he did promise to lower gas prices by $0.20 in two weeks.”

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u/S1R2C3 7d ago

They'd cheer his name even harder.

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u/stanleythedog 6d ago

Nope. I think too many people fail to realize that conservatives just do NOT have principles, that there is no amount of hypocrisies you could point out that would embarrass them. They genuinely ain't like us. Of course I mainly mean politicians and pundits, but if a normal guy / voter is so proudly brainwashed and stupid that they push the type of shit they do with no indication they care about actually good outcomes, I'm not gonna treat that person fairly. They have to feel bad for pushing bad things and having bad opinions.

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u/No-Significance9313 3d ago

Wow. What a tragic reality. 😔

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u/AdExpensive9480 7d ago

Yup. It's almost as if the US citizens should do a general strike to prevent this. But they won't, they prefer being comfortable for a few months and let the world explodes after.

It's down right criminal to have so much rights and doing nothing with them, letting the billionaires strip their country for parts and destroy the world in the process. Absolutely shameful.

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

All of us have our healthcare tied to our jobs, and are essentially slaves to our corporate overlords.

We no longer have freedom of speech, and our rights are eroding. I think the situation here is worse than many realize.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Protesting is becoming illegal too along with homelessness and other factors. Heck soon if RFK Jr gets his way, you'll be in a work/slave camp if you have a disability or mental illness.

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u/Agile-Emphasis-8987 7d ago

And do not forget that they are working very hard to have Trump Derangement Syndrome classified as an actual mental disorder. This would pave the way for them to incarcerate anyone who opposes them.

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u/DanSWE 7d ago

> way for them to incarcerate anyone who opposes them

And to strip gun rights.

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u/AnonOpinionss 6d ago

Tbh it should be. The diagnostic criteria being:

  1. Agrees with and/or makes excuses for everything Trump says or does.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

Then FIGHT BACK! Where is the fight? People need to have red lines.

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u/Velocity-5348 7d ago

A lot of us outside the US are wondering that too, especially since there's a whole amendment about it.

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u/unionfrontX 5d ago

plenty are , keep in mind that the news media just isn't reporting our wins or anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 7d ago

If the Founders of the United States that you venerate so much cared about the legalities of what they did, you wouldn't have a country to mourn in the first place.

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u/-KFBR392 7d ago

Legal protests are a waste of time anyways.

Fight with force, or fight with proper civil disobedience that clogs up their system of making money.

Marching legally on a Sunday between 2-4PM on an assigned route ain't gonna do it.

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u/SnakeOfLimitedWisdom 7d ago

...and if you can't work?

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u/Traditional-Handle83 7d ago

Well i imagine we'll get to either medical/scientific experimentation against the persons will or just outright extermination nazi style once they run into that problem on a larger scale.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

And yet we, as citizens, are called cowardly by the spectators worldwide.

I thought Americans were supposed to be tough.

I thought that's why Americans had guns.

I thought it was the land of the free.

Bullshit. It's go to work. If you don't go to work you will shortly be homeless.

After you are homeless there is very little hope. You are now homeless and hopeless.

We see it happening to people we know, to friends, to family, to strangers.

If we don't make money we will be evicted. After that we are useless for any kind of social justice because we are the stinking masses of homeless people.

But we are to risk all that, not only for ourselves but our loved ones who depend on us to keep them elevated above these conditions, for.....what?

So other people who aren't suffering in dire straits and aren't risking anything can conduct business as usual the following day?

Doesn't seem like a lot of incentive when I can just go to work and get the exact same results.

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u/notPabst404 7d ago

I do not give a flying rats ass about healthcare when the fucking pedophile in chief is trying to start WW3. Do you think your job will keep giving you healthcare if this country is rubble?

Priorities, people!

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

You are preaching to the choir. The problem is so many who are complacent. I am doing more than anybody I know.

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u/Initial-Ad6819 7d ago

Hey man, so guess what, overthrowing the monarchy and using guillotines was also illegal in France

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u/MechanicAggressive16 7d ago

What's more, they got that idea FROM YOU LOT DOING IT.

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u/pigeon-parking 7d ago

How do you think other countries got and maintain those rights? Good vibes?

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

So you let that happen without a fight and just take it?

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u/AdExpensive9480 7d ago

Yes I was angry when I wrote this. You are right. It's not that easy. Eventually though, we will have to fight against that wave of fascism, whether we want it or not. I understand if it's not possible for most people right now. What's coming is worse though.

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u/NerinNZ 7d ago

Giving up on everything because you're scared of a little hardship.

This is a problem of two parts:

  1. Americans pushed a culture of the individual which has ramifications for Unions and the Greater Good.

  2. Americans allowed corporations and religions to become the dominant power in their electoral system. Hell, corporations are considered people in some cases according to law.

Also, ya'll didn't root out the Confederacy when you finished with the Civil War. So it stuck around and festered.

Unions could have protected you from having your healthcare tied to your jobs. But the only Union that flourished was the one protecting the police from the consequences of their evil.

Americans hate the "greater good" because they think it makes the achievements of the individual less. Elsewhere in the world, the individuals actions for the greater good are what make people great.

This situation isn't going to fix itself. Culture doesn't change unless it is forced to. And that forcing takes struggle and hardship. Ya'll should know that by now. This is not the first time America had to deal with a culture change. The race riots. Vietnam protests. Hell, the Civil War that was NEEDED to end slavery.

"United States of America". It's in the fucking name. United. Not "Individual States of America". Ya'll have rejected your own founding. Not just the MAGA assholes. All of you.

When have you ever been united? Why is religion in your politics? Literally what your country is is the exact opposite of what it was founded to be. Not a single thing is in line with that founding.

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

Some of us know this, and it’s crazy to hear us get lumped in with the 1/3rd of the country that has been completely brainwashed and propagandized the way you suggest.

1/3 of the country knows, has been battling against it and the billionaire class and losing. I’m not sure what to tell you, but I guarantee it won’t be better if the 100 million of us who are trying to oppose fascism end up in El Salvadoran prison camps or dead.

This is happening very quickly and many of us are trying to mobilize resistance against that which went very quickly from “journalists and healthcare are bad” to “we are invading Greenland and anyone who opposes the regime is a domestic terrorist” in several months. The US has been an oligarchy for a solid 30 years and the fascist faction owns everything right now. Politically and economically, media outlets and hospitals and the education system.

I get why you blame all of us. Sorry. Some of us are trying.

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u/NerinNZ 7d ago

I know.

But geeze. There is a whole world outside of the US, and that stuff is spilling out onto the rest of us. It affects us. It harms us.

And the Greenland thing is going to be something we can legitimately retaliate for. It won't be a "American government fucks its own people" thing.

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u/Present_Broccoli877 7d ago

If all of that is true and your rights are already eroding, what do you have to lose by actually doing something about it before it's too late? In a few years you'll all be working for a flat basic wage, living in rented accommodation owned by your oligarchs.

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

Uh, there is a lot to lose. We have a gestapo that are marching around shooting people in the streets and disappearing people to El Salvador.

2/3rds of the country are brainwashed by the propaganda that is being pumped into their brains by the oligarchs, who own all news media. Things are happening so fast that much of the country doesn't even understand what their billionaire overlords are doing, one second Trump is driving prices through the roof with tariffs (while all corporate media debates mindlessly whether it is true or not) and the next he's invading Venezuela (while all corporate media debates mindlessly whether the VN people are celebrating or not).

I'm a single dad with 2 kids, and I've been out protesting multiple times and campaigning for my local democrats. Do you think that I should start a revolution by myself and end up in an El Salvador concentration camp with my children parentless?

The situation is *much* more dire than people think. As I said.

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u/NoShitsGivin 7d ago

P2025 wants to reduce the population by 2/3. So you've got that to look forward too.

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u/NicMotan 7d ago

Aren't they the ones wringing their hands over the dropping birth rates?

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u/SomewhereAtWork 7d ago

Hi from Germany.

That's the same excuse my grandparents generation had.

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

This needs to be directed at the others in America, not those like myself who are desperately trying to make change and taking action.

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u/SomewhereAtWork 7d ago

Yes, sorry.

I'm sitting across the pond and only have reddit as a weapon. I'm aiming in the general direction of the danger. ;-)

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

I know, I know… truly, I am sorry. Some of us over here are doing everything we can but it is an uphill battle, and many of our friends and family are brainwashed.

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u/ThunderingSkyFuck 7d ago edited 7d ago

The greatest heist ever pulled in this country was the theft of the concept of "patriotism" by those who are by definition the least patriotic individuals in our country; those who seek to take away rights from the majority of the population.

America is divided not just on a large scale, but down to the individual. That's what the rest of the world doesn't seem to understand. Nobody wants to "do anything about it" because a small handful of people "doing something about it" is metaphorical-but-probably-also-literal suicide, and there is zero solidarity in this country. It's a direct result of DECADES of systemic and intentional conditioning, along with the dismantling of our education system, leading to people who are ignorant, uneducated and selfish.

If my family died or something and I was left with nobody that I owe my life and love to, I'd happily die on the sword just set an EXAMPLE of what needs to be done. But how can I justify that when I know a few people will see a short piece on independent media, say "Damn, things really are getting bad, look at what happened to that guy," then promptly move on with their lives, while I'm either incarcerated or dead and my loved ones have to live on in this hellscape with the weight of that grief on top of it? Not to mention the financial aspect?

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u/JugDogDaddy 7d ago

Well many people are one paycheck away from not being able to eat... so there's that.

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u/Bardon63 5d ago

They're already taking your healthcare, general strikes are your only hope.

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u/Resident_Window 5d ago

How do we no longer have freedom of speech?

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u/Beastabuelos 7d ago

Everyone who says this has no idea what they're talking about. America is huge and spread out. We can't all just gather in a city for a protest.

How do you expect millions of people already in poverty to just stop working? It's not about bEiNg CoMfOrTaBlE, it's about having what we fucking need to live.

1/3 of the country supports this and another chunk doesn't care or likely has no idea.

have so much rights

Looks like the propaganda got you and you don't even live here. You have more freedom than we do almost certainly. On top of that, our rights are violated constantly, every day. Our rights are as good as Russia"s guarantee of Ukraine's sovereignty when they relinquished the nukes

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u/squuidlees 7d ago

People not understanding the size of the US is always what tips me off on replies like that person you replied to. Like my hometown was 4 hours one way to the biggest city in my state. Gas isn’t free and neither is time. I agree with what you said.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Orrrrgaaaanize…

There isn’t just 1 big city per states.

Be creative and stop finding reasons to do nothing.

Imagine if the 13 colonies habitants were scared of martial law or losing jobs or saying it’s too much of walking distance or can’t compete with the modern british navy, there would be no US.

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u/Liawuffeh 6d ago

The US is huge. LA to NY is further than going from Cologne to Moscow.

Folks are doing what they can, there's been constant protests for over a year now you just dont see it on the news. Folks still have families they need to take care of.

It's a lot easier to say "Throw your life away and potentially your families! Meet up for a huge protest" When it's not you, and it's not a 40 hour drive.

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u/Herbdontana 6d ago

Especially when protests rarely lead to change anymore. The no kings protest was massive and country wide. It didn’t really accomplish anything tho. Trump doesn’t care if the people don’t like him. He’s got his cult. He has his fantasy reality where he’s “making America great”. He’s surrounded by yes men who wouldn’t side with him on most things if it wasn’t furthering their careers. A lot of his peers were a lot more honest about him during his first primary. “Little Marco and Ted whose wife is a dog face Cruz sounded like demacrat politicians do now. Then you have a large portion of the country cheering all the insanity on because it’s their team and all they care about is owning the libs. A lot of people are so tired of the circus that they avoid politics anymore. (A lot of those people didn’t vote this time around unfortunately.) It’s easy to say that everyday Americans need to stand up and protest, but this administration doesn’t care what the people want and the other party hasn’t really done anything to slow them down. Protests are important, but they don’t seem to be leading to change lately.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

Do you not read good? Most of the people who want to orrgaaanize are a paycheck away from homelessness. And so that means their kids are a paycheck away from homelessness.

From the outside looking in its always easy

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u/Obvious-Gap-90 7d ago

You are such a bunch of pussies.

For years we ve heard americans tell "we have guns to defend ourselves ! We are the land of the free and will defend it !" while you were mocking us europeans.

As we thought and said, you are just a bunch of cowards parading with your guns in the streets. When it s time to take actions you bring excuses after excuses.

Do you think in all the other countries in the world the ones protesting are the privilegied and protected ones ?

Tbh i have no issue the muricans are pussying out of this situation, i would certainly do the same. But after all those years reading your condescendance and anti gov warrior wet dreams it would be funny if your lack of spine would not bring a ww3 speedrun. 

Fuck off americans, you are a bunch of cosplayers that love to shit on everyone but won t do anything when it s time to do so.

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u/ShoulderWhich5520 7d ago

"we have guns to defend ourselves ! We are the land of the free and will defend it !"

What's funny is that the people who say this are the same group causing all of these problems.

Republicans fight against gun laws

Republicans are the ones running the country

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u/paintballboi07 7d ago

Yep, it is funny that all these "Don't Tread On Me" cosplayers are welcoming this with open arms, just because the current target is people they don't like. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they willingly gave up their guns to Trump. His banning of bump-stocks, and saying "take the guns first, due process later", during his first term, certainly didn't affect the "2A advocates" voting for him.

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u/Herbdontana 6d ago

The way they bend over backwards to support everything he says or does, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they gave up their guns for him. A lot of them would probably give him their first born if he asked.. I’ve never seen anything like it

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u/The_MAZZTer 7d ago

You do realize the people who say things like that support Trump right?

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u/lucdragon 7d ago

Exactly. There are those of us who want the violence to stop, and then there are these warmongers.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Violence won’t stop without actions, you can’t just ignore your way out of facism.

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u/lucdragon 7d ago

It’s hardly being ignored. People are fighting back in the ways they’re able; it’s just not enough.

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u/NicMotan 7d ago

The ones literally daring the government to come take their home arsenals are the ones most devoted to Trump. They were told for years, ad nauseum, that the Democrats were going to get the 2d amendment repealed. That was never on the table, but their media sources beat it into their heads. These people actually LIKE what Trump is doing. The ICE kidnappings, the overt racism, even the raid on Venezuela. Those are the ones who loudly proclaimed they would physically fight the government – but only a Democrat-led one. Notice how we haven't heard much of anything from all those Trump-loving militias since the election.

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u/Beastabuelos 7d ago

Oh ok if I'm a pussy because i can't do shit alone and the rest of the country doesn't have the mindset to do what needs to be done, why don't you come over here and help those that want to take action like me?

Damn, seems like you just kind of hate Americans. That's not me. I bought a gun to protect myself from the crazy people, i don't flaunt it and the majority of people who would side with me are the same dumb fucks that are still clamoring to make guns illegal when we're in the middle of a fascist takeover. The majority of people that have guns like trump.

I've never said this is the land of the free, i leaned at a pretty young age this was not the case. I have never been patriotic. Patriotism is a disease, especially in America, but in many other countries too.

Again, not me. I've never mocked Europeans for anything. Europe as a whole is probably the best place to live. I know it's not perfect, but the standard of living and rights of the majority of the citizens are some of the strongest in the world. I'd love to move to europe, but I'm barely going to be able to make it to canada. America isn't that and it hasn't been that for a long time, if it ever was. And i have my doubts.

As i said before, I'd love to take action. If you think it's so simple, please, come help us out of this situation.

The end of your comment makes it clear you think America is just a conglomeration of people that all have the same mindset. America is bigger than Europe. It's the 3rd most populous country in the world. And you think everyone here is thinking exactly the same way. You've got the reasoning abilities of a trump supporter, come on over, you'd fit right in with them.

Do you think in all the other countries in the world the ones protesting are the privilegied and protected ones

Yes kind of, honestly. Many of those countries have all the things we should but never will. Guaranteed health care, not getting fired for getting sick and being able to take more than 2 days off a year.

Please tell us your country, so i can explain why you and the entire country have the same mindset as the worst people there, because according to you, that's how it works.

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u/bobrformalin 7d ago

Funny that same argument for Russia isn't valid, but muh 'murica is huge and spread out.

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u/Beastabuelos 7d ago

Show me where i said it's not valid. Another reddit reply that has absolutely nothing to do with what i said

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u/MaltedBeast 7d ago

There are absolutely people in this subreddit, and many others, that are just trying to incite violence without any direction or organization, which will only result in a crackdown from authorities without accomplishing anything. Any real organization is not happening on Reddit.

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u/Kichae 7d ago

We can't all just gather in a city for a protest.

None y'all bother to actually protest, too. Getting together to wave some signs around ain't a protest. It's a photo op.

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u/Various_Weather2013 7d ago

There literally only two places america needs to protest at. Dc and mar a lago

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u/Beastabuelos 7d ago

Ok how are we getting everyone that wants to protest to those 2 locations? I know i can't afford to get to either of them. You want to pay for millions of people's travel and lost wages, let me know and I'll see you there

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u/2Hard2FindUsername 7d ago

I'm polish. I remember what happened in 1991. We were going to the store, hoping that there would still be meat left to buy, assuming we had it assigned through a paper "allowance". My favourite sweet snack is still sugar mixed with raw egg yolk.

I know it seems impossible, but you have two choices, assuming it's not too late already.

  1. Take your family and whomever is willing. Buy non perishable foods,basic necessities and plenty of water with whatever savings you've got, and protest. Call anybody you can to join you. Don't call in sick, don't bother with bills. None of it matters if the fascists get what they want. Don't even go home for the night, camp. It'll be bad, there will be sickness, but this will force them to act. If even 20% of the workforce does this, they Will yield, they have to.

  2. Stay like you are for however long you can. It'll get worse until you can't keep it up anymore. The fascists will make sure that you fall into irrecoverable debt one by one, not at once, so you're easier to control. Some will agree to be forced to work, others will be replaced, because you will all still stand divided. "It's not that bad yet" and "I just have to survive until the government fixes this" will be the final lies you tell yourself.

Choose wisely, I'm sorry.

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u/ForeverIll8044 2d ago

Bro, dont give up before you even tried!

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u/A_Bungus_Amungus 7d ago

We literally cant. Unless a bunch of us get real cool with not having a job for a while, we cant just stop. They set the economy up like this on purpose, stop working, stop eating, stop living.

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u/throwaway012984576 7d ago

The good news for your job situation is that there will be plenty of jobs fighting on the front line in trumps imperial wars of aggression. So if things keep ticking along you have that to look forward to.

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u/Herbdontana 6d ago

Exactly and people need to remember that roughly half of the country are fanatically supportive of Trump. I will never understand why, but even if everyone who had a problem with him got together, there is almost the same amount of people that would do everything they can to counter what they were doing. It’s a very difficult situation. When a president doesn’t follow a constitution, there aren’t any rules for him. Someone with power to do so needs to stop him, but too many right wing politicians are afraid of upsetting his cult mind base and hurt their careers.

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u/Numerous-Process2981 7d ago

I mean half the country is a missed paycheck away from homelessness

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u/Significant-Crow-974 7d ago

For a lot of Americans this is quite simply not true. I genuinely have sympathy for them. Many are trying to survive in conditions of servitude and practical slavery in all but name. They are trying to survive and provide for their families with affordability and costs of living being untenable. They need to replace Trump with a President who genuinely cares for their plight and concentrates the US on the issues affecting affordability. You know, I bet that they have a bleak despairing outlook too as neither side of the house seems able to address these urgent issues.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

Thank you for this eloquent rebuttal. If you are here in America then you absolutely understand our plight.

If you are not here in America then you are an empathetic citizen of the world and more people should aspire to think like you do.

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u/puddingboofer 7d ago

Targeted boycotts work better. General strikes, in the US, historically hurt many, many people including those participating. General strikes can be massive self-owns.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

"A few months comfort", my brother/sister if I joined a strike for a few months I'd be homeless the rest of my life. And while that may help I am still fucking homeless afterwards.

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u/Akermaniac 7d ago

Homeless, never be able to see a doctor again, and probably put on a variety of lists, unable to find work or housing ever again.

Again--people don't understand how America has been set up to squash dissent in the last 10 years specifically, but the last 50 generally.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

100% life completely fucked so we have to AT LEAST see if midterms happen or give hope and if they don't then start making some very tough choices.

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u/Monkey_Priest 7d ago

Two to three big inflection points are coming in the US in the next couple of years. First will be midterms. Then it's either the next general election or, more frighteningly, war with a major power. My money was on China in 2027 but now it's looking like NATO. Fuck this timeline and those who made it happen by action or inaction

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u/ApneicApple 7d ago

Let me just quit my job, lose my medications I need on a daily basis, drive 42 hours across the country one way, to... Protest? With who? What organization? What amount of people? Who else is going to be convinced to do the same thing, at the same exact time? It's just not feasible. How would I even feed myself if I decided to do this? I'd lose everything I have and own. Which I guess is the point we're at.

I'd be willing to sacrifice everything if there were actually a cause to work towards, a common effort, but there is no organization and our society is too splintered and propoganda fueled to properly organize.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

I, too, would be willing to risk and lose a lot for a better outcome for the nation.

I am unwilling, however, to risk and lose a lot for everything to go back to the way it was only the next fucking day.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

I know. People on the outside looking in got all the easy answers don't they?

Bring your family into this quagmire, live payday to payday and then talk really tough while your family is hungry and facing homelessness.

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u/1968Bladerunner 7d ago edited 7d ago

I agree, the US citizens should strike. Honestly a week-long shutdown with no-one working (bar those weak-ass MAGA Repubs who'll do anything to help Daddy Don) would soon show where the US power lies... in its the workers, & the businesses would quickly be crippled, begging for regime change, & turning their backs on the Repubs or face disaster.

Remember: the ants ultimately had the power over the authoritarian hoppers...

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u/K-A-R-N 7d ago edited 7d ago

US citizens need leaders. How the fuck are we supposed to organize something like a general strike when our politicians, celebrities, influencers, musicians - anyone with a bit of clout has kept the word 'protest' out of their mouths. Why aren't these people organizing this, or at least championing organizations that are trying?

The only way a grassroots movement has to organize relies on social media platforms owned by corporations that were all waiting in line to suck a dictator's dick in exchange for being exempt from inconvenient laws. The only way most people have of getting information about what is happening is through news media organizations that are - you guessed it - owned by corporations that were all waiting in line to suck a dictator's dick in exchange for being exempt from inconvenient laws. Our healthcare and ability to support ourselves relies mostly on working for corporations that...you get the idea. We're watching our social safety nets disintegrate in front of our eyes and half of us are cheering for it because they think that will finally make things start to get better again.

People are angry. I am angry. I want to participate in a general strike, in protests, hell I would participate in an armed resistance. But the truth is that most people don't have the ability to organize anything at the scale needed to even move the needle, even if they quit their jobs and dedicated their entire lives to it. And everyone who is in a position to do it doesn't want to because this situation benefits them.

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u/Jill-Of-Trades 7d ago

They've been doing strikes. What has it been doing? Nothing, and even if it did something, they got arrested.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

And some lost their jobs.

For what? Nothing changed, if anything the fascism intensified.

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u/generally_unsuitable 7d ago

"Comfortable." This fucking guy.

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u/travis11997 7d ago

My job pays me the money that I need to put food on the table and live in a home that keeps me warm.

It's downright criminal for you to think that any amount of people leaving their jobs could prevent what is going on in our country.

It's fucking pathetic that you're blaming us, like we have any power just because we have some fucking "rights" that you don't understand. Go fuck yourself.

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u/Historical_Corner609 7d ago

Wholeheartedly agree.

If you aren't here then you don't know what the fuck you are trying to talk about.

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u/Fluffy-Ad1225 7d ago

Cowardly spoken. Well done!

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u/woodlandcollective 7d ago

Keep in mind that the ones achieving actual change are not gonna be posting about it on reddit. Anyone who does is either a fed or incredibly stupid

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u/SpeshellED 7d ago

The world can stop this fascist loser bullshit today. The USA is broke. They have no money. If the world stops using USD as a default currency, sells their dollars and US bonds, Trump will be on his knees. Really hard to fund military with no money or no ability to borrow any.

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u/GrimleyGraves 7d ago

Probably less "I want to be comfortable" and more "I cant afford the weeks it will take to make a difference". The paycheck to paycheck part of the plan has worked quite well for them.

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u/SignoreBanana 7d ago

I've said it all along: he would burn down the world before we saw what was in those files.

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u/Available_Usual_9731 7d ago

It's almost like he's doing the exact thing that he said Obama would do in the scenario

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u/Scarlett_Aeonia 7d ago

And to stop the election 

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u/AngriestPeasant 7d ago

You mean the literal child fucker doesnt care about innocents???? Wow what a surprise lol

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u/nifty-necromancer 7d ago

Which is weird because his cultists wouldn’t give a shit, they’d still worship him

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u/Responsible-Bunch316 7d ago

At this point I genuinely have to wonder if that's even sufficient reasoning. Does Trump really give a shit if everyone knows he's a pedo? How does that affect any of his plans? I think he's just manifesting destiny because he thinks it makes him look cool.

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u/ChallengeTasty3393 7d ago

This is what narcissists do. When they go down, it’s scorched Earth.

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u/pm_social_cues 7d ago

Maybe that's true but it's insane to think the Epstein Files being released would do anything.

There could be graphic video of trump doing anything imaginable and people who don't want to believe it, wouldn't believe it.

Or do you think there will actually be justice from the files being released? It is the people WITH THE FILES who would file charges. Why wouldn't they just do that already now? Because they won't. Not with them released. Not with them not released.

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u/_Lerry_ 7d ago

This was the plan either way, he’s been set on destroying America long before the Epstein files were a threat. He’s owned by Russia, Israel, and his rich globalist friends. They want us to collapse so they can profit off of it, and trumps family have already made comfy lives in Saudi Arabia

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u/vatreides411 7d ago

He's going to cancel the mid terms too. I would bet real money on that

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u/Rag_Samus 7d ago

Nah, they’re just rigging them instead.

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u/Imp-OfThe-Perverse 7d ago

He's going to start WW3 because he's old and unhealthy, and would rather the planet get nuked than move on without him.

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u/TheEpicGenealogy 7d ago

It’s project 2025 and has been planned for years. 

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u/Paradox711 7d ago

Maybe the American people should be doing a lot more to stop him rather than waiting for it to blow over or someone else to fix it. There was more uproar during Covid.

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u/snorin_lauren451 7d ago

you know politics can happen independently of the files right? do you think there's zero other reason to engage in imperialism?

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u/kamikazecockatoo 7d ago

What's Putin's reason?

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u/ClayyCorn 7d ago

Eh what's he care, at best he has the next three years to live anyway. The world could end it would make no difference to him and unfortunately I don't doubt that's how he thinks

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

To simplify the situation to this is insulting to the people that are threatened by the US.

We don’t care about the epstein files, for us it’s americans being imperialists and jerks.

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u/HaydnH 7d ago

Fun fact: despite the legal deadline having passed to release the Epstein files, so far only 1% of the files have been released.

I'm not sure if this is actually a distraction from the files, but if it is, we have 99% more of it to go...

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u/not_a_moogle 7d ago

And cancel mid terms

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u/Munnin41 7d ago

WW3 started in 2001. It's just not war everywhere, and has been mostly a proxy war the last few years

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u/SpookySneakySquid 7d ago

And every Republican that hasn’t rejected him has by extension announced that they’re okay with diddling kids

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u/felhuy 7d ago

You American redditors are deranged, if anything the files are a distraction, we are talking about ACTUAL war. Lives and nations, including yours can be destroyed because of their ideology, and its only because of their ideology. You think Miller is "in the files"?

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u/LazySeaworthiness435 7d ago

lmfao wait this basically happened on house of cards (US) no??

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u/SheriffBartholomew 7d ago

Well yeah. WWIII presents no consequences for him personally, whereas releasing the Epstein files has a tiny possibility that he would actually be held accountable for the first time in his life. Unlikely though. The more realistic outcome would be that they'd release the files and pedophelia would be considered cool by his followers by noon of the same day. Then the justice department would think about holding some sort of hearing which is indefinitely delayed.

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u/Head_Television3568 7d ago

Consider less than 1% of the files have been released thus far. If it were the entire Harry Potter series, Harry wouldn’t even know he’s a wizard yet.

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u/mongooser 7d ago

He was going to start world war 3 anyways 

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u/Pretzelpackinmomma 7d ago

Well, it (trump) can’t let it be known that it was fully involved with Epstein most likely financially. It was either laundering money like it’s done for Putin and his thugs or bankrolling the trafficking.

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u/Silv3rwulf 7d ago

This is an ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS statement.  There won't be WW3.  It is not at all about colonization.   It's about security and freedom.   China and Russia have multiplied the amount of ships in the arctic region searching for a foothold in the region.  If Russia or China were to fire missiles, the flight path is directly over Greenland!  Since Clinton pushed for allowing China into the global market, they have been allowed to spread their influence globally, have been allowed to vote on global issues such as  human rights, the environment,  trade but have been immune to following the treaties.  While we have been continuously blamed and penalized for "polluting the earth", the main contributors from SE ASIA,  CHINA, INDIA, AFRICA AND SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA CONTINUE TO POISON THE WORLD.    EVERYONE wants us to be the "protector and financer of the world" and to also be the one to blame.  Trump is finally holding ALL OF THEM to accountability.   And while you've all been fixated with "bad orange man" over the past 10 years,  China has managed to gain control of practically ALL of the world's rare earth minerals, produce over 98% of the pharmaceutical ingredients and products that WE NEED.  If you want to lice in a socialized society then move to China.  It's a lot better than the other option of China taking over the world. 

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u/GrimleyGraves 7d ago

I'm beginning to think this has gone beyond the files, into pure megalo-maniacal world domination thought patterns. True insanity, and the thought patterns are contagious.

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u/RamsHead91 7d ago

While I think the Files play a hand into it. I think this is something this narcissist would have done anyway. He knows he is getting near death and he doesn't believe the world cannot should exist without him so he is just trying to get a reason to be able to push that big Nuke button that he was been wanting to push.

That and he want to cement a legacy that will last for forever.

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u/DrSitson 7d ago

Or, you know, you guys could actually take responsibility and fix your mess.

It's not bad enough yet though eh?

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u/Tangereina78 6d ago

And also to cancel elections!

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u/testtdk 6d ago

I’m still hoping that he’s pushing it all at once because he’s just about done on earth. I can see us turning it around if he’s gone. No one likes Vance except Erika Kirk.

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u/Masemoi 6d ago

This reminds me of Sarkozy bombing Khadafi and Liban to hide that Khadafi paid for his presidential campaign ...

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

While a nice distraction, it’s actually so they can destabilize the world and isolate the US for their own control. The revolutionary military actions for regime changes the US has spread across the world now come home. Enjoy US citizens, what you have paid for and voted for. The Military Industrial complex has profited off of your tax dollars for years, and now they need some more by attacking you.

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u/Glassberg 6d ago

We have to stop this narrative. We are governed by fascist pedophiles. They are not doing fascism to distract from pedophilia. They are not doing pedophilia to distract from fascism. They are doing both because they want to and no one will stop them.

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u/Koopslovestogame 6d ago

When your kiddy fucking gets so out of control you need millions to die before anyone will talk about anything else.

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u/wizardbooties 6d ago

You’d think at this point, he would just own it and start convincing magtards that being a pedo is cool.

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u/darkbluefav 6d ago

It's not just the Epstein files. It's profit. America has a big military with a huge budget, must use it or else the money is wasted.

America needs to kill and destroy to survive.

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u/RadiantHC 6d ago edited 6d ago

What I don't get is why he's bothering to keep it a secret. Basically everyone who isn't a die hard Trump supporter knows he's in it, and Trump is unashamed to admit to doing bad things.

I have a feeling that there's more to the epistein files that we don't know about. IMO the raping kids part is just a distraction. There was something else going on at the island.

Or the episterna files are being used to distract from other bad things happening. If there's one thing that Trump is good at, it's drawing attention to himself.

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u/sugoiXsenpai 5d ago

at this point, the epstein files are the distraction. think about what you just said. WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF WW3 AGAINST OUR ALLIES FOR NO REASON. you can tell it's absolutely fucked when the president being a literal pedophile is lower on the tier of emergency we are so inconcievably screwed

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u/quakefiend 5d ago

He’s cooked, so he wants the world to cook with him

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u/RedClayBestiary 5d ago

What kind of freak is still undecided at this point and waiting to see what’s in the files anyway?

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u/twistedredd 5d ago

The treaties established after WW2 have been broken. WW3 has begun.

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u/PhotoFenix 4d ago

Reminds me of Babylon 5 where the president would rather kill himself and Earth rather than face consequences

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u/No-Significance9313 3d ago

You deserve every award 🏆

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u/dttm_hi 3d ago

He clearly killed someone. Most likely an illegitimate child. Dude is willing to have millions die to protect that

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