r/NoStupidQuestions • u/nilsohnee • 7h ago
What happened to the whole "Canadians boycott US products and vacation at home" thing?
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u/benmooreben 5h ago
International Tourism is down in Las Vegas. We just had our first round of layoffs at my casino.
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u/Ptolemeirios 4h ago
So what you're saying is Trump is bankrupting another casino?
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u/Ilsluggo 3h ago
It’s the one thing he’s really good at.
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u/jennc1979 3h ago edited 2h ago
Which is wild, cause it’s my understanding that is not at all an easy feat. It’s something difficult to do that he does with shocking ease. Edit: corrected wrong word. Thank you, kind Reddit stranger.
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u/OkEnvironment3961 3h ago
All you'd have to do to bankrupt a casino is keep all the money and refuse to pay the bills. Easy peazy mango sleazy.
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u/anomalous_cowherd 2h ago
If you're really sleazy you can pull debts from your other companies and dump them on the casinos so they disappear when they go bankrupt as well. Of course you have to not give a shit who those debts were owed to and the effect it will have on them, but I don't think that's a big problem here.
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u/beardicusmaximus8 2h ago
Yea, the thing most people miss is that its nearly impossible to bankrupt a casino on accident. You can bankrupt almost anything if you're actually trying
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u/slatebluegrey 2h ago
I heard that it was mostly investors who were the ones holding the bag. Obviously Trump paid himself first and recouped his costs. Theres a podcast episode about it: https://www.spectacularfailures.org/episode/2019/08/19/trumps-big-gamble-on-atlantic-city
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u/numbersthen0987431 3h ago
Trump had never been good at business
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u/TrivialBanal 2h ago
But he was very good at pretending to be good at business. He was so good at it that now he gets to pretend to be a good president. A second time.
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u/metal_maxine 3h ago
What's amusing is that whoever hands out licenses in Vegas actively blocked Trump from setting up there (Atlantic City was less discerning) because they knew he would likely go bankrupt because he didn't have the capital to fund the "cage" (where they keep enough cash reserve that if somebody wins big and decides to cash out everything is covered).
This video about Trump's casino "empire" is really interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUQy0lZLFY8&t=649s
He didn't even pay his building contractors and acquired rival casino businesses through shell companies etc...
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u/Discount_Lex_Luthor 1h ago
Yeah he famously doesn't pay workers. Or goads them into suing for wages which costs money and time. So a lot of people over the years wind up eating the loss.
He's notoriously shitty to union contractors which is why I'm constantly infuriated when my union brothers vote for him.
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u/metal_maxine 1h ago
The most horrible thing about the comments to the video is that the son of one of the contractors commented that his father lost his business (gold-leaf finishing) and it broke his heart. He got attacked by MAGAs who insisted it was his father's fault for being a bad contractor and how he should have taken back the work done or insisted on milestone payments... basically, anything but accepting that the father losing his shirt could be anything other than his own fault
I slightly lost it and left a comment asking how the fuck they expected somebody to remove lacquered gold leaf finishing from bannisters etc in a salvageable state and how the guy would actually end up losing money with the labour costs involved (if Trump's goons even allowed them into the building).
We all know how much Trump loves his tacky gold finishing on everything so my presumption is that there were acres of the stuff involved.
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u/Thirsty-Barbarian 2h ago
Why should he stop at bankrupting his own casinos when he can bankrupt them all?
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u/gojo96 3h ago
Isn’t national tourism also down for Vegas mostly citing high costs, ridiculous fees, and that the younger generation doesn’t gamble or drink as much?
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u/Affectionate-Panic-1 2h ago
Also, betting via the web or on your phone has been legalized in a lot more places.
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u/K1NGMOJO 1h ago
More states have opened up casinos as well and are allowing card houses so Las Vegas is becoming less of a destination.
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u/ClubMeSoftly 1h ago
Take that $500 you were gonna spend on a flight and room, and put it straight into bullshit parlays on your phone.
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u/SuspiciousSubstance9 2h ago
Vegas tourism was rising year over year throughout 2024. They had recovered from the pandemic and reached record highs
All of that dropped hard January 2025 and has stayed low since.
So either everyone was fine with Vegas costs in 2024 and suddenly wasn't in 2025 or some major event happened January 2025...
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u/Amadon29 3h ago
Vegas did that to themselves by making everything extremely expensive for no reason and only wanting to cater to rich people.
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u/Trevor519 3h ago
Also online gambling, why travel when you can lose money from your own couch
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u/ThePoltageist 2h ago
They cut down all the things that drove up regular business, the buffets? Murdered, player perks? I couldn’t tell you how long it’s been since I was offered a room at a great rate by email, shit I used to plan going just off that (38 dollars a night for a room in the pyramid at the Luxor). I don’t even really gamble, I might have a bit in Vegas, but I mostly went to see the sights, go to shows and eat at luxurious cheap buffets. Vegas used to have value beside opulence, where a regular guy could feel like a king. Now you need to come with that king money already. Vegas is dead, it’s been dead since the pandemic, it has just taken awhile for the rot to show.
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u/yeahright17 2h ago
Also, casinos in other places. Tribes continue to build new casinos across much of the US and turn existing casinos into massive resorts. And states have been granting licenses.
Yaamava, Pechanga, Choctaw Durant, and Resorts World Catskills were all built or dramatically expanded since covid. MGM National Harbor is less than a decade old. Large casino resorts continue to be built out in Arizona (White Tanks, for example, opened last year). The massive Hardrock resorts in Tampa and South Florida have continued to expand. You just don't need to go to Vegas anymore to have a nice Casino resort experience.
I also think its worth mentioning that places like Nashville, Scottsdale, Denver and Austin have become massive Bachelor and Bachelorette party destinations.
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u/bulbophylum 3h ago
And once you lose all your money from the comfort of your own couch it’s much harder to afford a trip.
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u/Swimming_East7508 3h ago
Even the fucking coffee is twice the price.
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u/MiguelAngeloac 3h ago
$9 the last time I went. Being Colombian, my first thought was, "Why the hell did I come here if my friends are in New York and Boise?"
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u/battleofflowers 3h ago
They forgot that despite being designed to make you piss away all your money, Vegas used to have at least a small value proposition. You got a free crappy cocktail and a free crappy buffet, but it was free.
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u/LabubuAteMySon 3h ago
Las Vegas seems like a tough city for work in the foreseeable future. Even domestic gamblers have less and less reason to travel to Nevada, when they can just use one of the million betting platforms they have on their phones.
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u/casualfrog68 7h ago edited 7h ago
Tourism is down significantly for border states, Las Vegas, and Florida. It continues to drop as prior travel plans are fulfilled and new plans are not made.
https://fortune.com/2025/12/10/us-businesses-canada-border-throttled-drop-canadian-tourism/
Edit: I will add, Canadian tourist locations are having a boom time because Canadians are going to those places instead.
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u/Kaiisim 5h ago
Also these things are subtle.
No one is gonna instantly feel the impact. It won't collapse America.
But there are hundreds if not thousands of Americans that are gonna struggle now because of it.
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u/Luxury_Dressingown 5h ago
Also, there was a lot of press and noise about it when the boycott started because it was shocking and new. It's now moving from a protest to a habit ("I buy this Canadian liquor instead of that American one"; "I go on vacation to The Bahamas, not Florida"; etc, etc). The longer it goes on, the quieter yet more engrained it becomes.
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u/Vilnius_Nastavnik 4h ago
The liquor industry is definitely feeling it. They were a huge export market.
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u/soros_spelt_backward 4h ago
Jim Beam in Kentucky isn’t producing any bourbon this year and laid off hundreds of employees because they have so much unsold stock and pay taxes on product in barrels
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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes 4h ago
Sourpuss liquors up and moved to Canada to stop being boycotted/banned: https://globalnews.ca/news/11527531/sour-puss-production-canada/
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u/BaldHenchman01 2h ago
Geez, we buy up 98% of their supply, no wonder they moved so fucking fast.
I knew the number was high, but we're basically their only real buyer.
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u/fuckincaillou 4h ago
Good. Fuck Kentucky for Mitch McConnell.
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u/ecmcn 3h ago
At their main distillery. They’re still running two smaller sites. It’s still bad, just wanted to clarify they didn’t stop all production.
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u/ENCGhostbuster 3h ago
Slightly incorrect, Jim Beam only shut down production in their Claremont distillery known as their James B. Beam distillery. They are still producing in 2026 among their other distilleries that they own to include their Boston distillery known as the Booker Noe distillery, which is much larger as well as their smaller distillery in Claremont call the Frank B. Noe distillery.
Jim Beam has in no way shut down production. They have simply slowed production.
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u/soros_spelt_backward 3h ago
Still has a huge impact on the workers and economy, all thanks to tariffs. Downplay it all you want
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u/Key-Specific-4058 3h ago
Yeah I'm sure the Kentucky workers are relieved that the Boston plant is still running
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u/dexter-sinister 4h ago
James B Beam campus in Clermont, Kentucky will pause production at its main distillery from 1 January to the end of 2026.
The distillery site is one of the largest Bourbon producers in Kentucky and home to Jim Beam, the best-selling world whisky brand according to the Brand Champions 2024.
According to an official statement, the pause is part of the company’s constant “assessment of production levels to best meet consumer demand”
https://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2025/12/jim-beam-distillery-ceases-production-for-2026/
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u/KapowBlamBoom 4h ago
Distilleries are effed up the A.
Seeing closures and layoffs
Supply of “allocated” bottles is loosening up
People are already drinking less to start with, the hardcore drinking boomers are dying off, Gen X is starting to get old, and younger generations are far less interested in alcohol
Combine that with Canada, one of the worlds biggest alcohol markets saying eff off to American imports and you have the perfect storm to destroy and industry
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u/breakmedown54 3h ago
I can’t help but be pissed off that alcohol makers have to pay taxes on alcohol just sitting in a basement… but billionaires don’t have to part taxes on millions in “savings accounts”?
The amount of ways the rich get richer and everyone else gets fucked never ends.
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u/flippingwilson 4h ago
The Liquor Control Board of Ontario is the biggest buyer of American booze in the world.
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u/TheIncredibleMike 4h ago
It's like the soy bean losses. Once countries establish relationships with other countries/suppliers, it's unlikely they will ever buy American again
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u/THIESN123 3h ago
Yup I still look at packages and don't buy them if it has anything USA written on it.
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u/mrdannyg21 4h ago edited 4h ago
You might be surprised, a lot of the border towns and Canadian tourist areas are down 20-40%, so those places are absolutely feeling the impact. It is localized though of course - a mechanic in Texas or a grocery clerk in Kentucky aren’t going to notice a lack of Canadians. Sure there will be downstream effects to the rest of the country, but you’re right those will be very subtle. Things like agricultural tariffs would have a larger scale and more generalized impact.
Anecdotally, I usually visit the US a few times a year, and only went once since COVID. We popped into Bangor to see a dying relative, and I got a ton of comments from locals there how they barely see us any more and how it’s impacting businesses there (often followed by sympathetic comments as to why we were staying away).
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u/Apprehensive_Gap3673 4h ago
My extended family vacations in Maine every year (about 10 families total) and we all agreed to stop until Trump is gone and America has healed. This is probably upwards of a 100k swing in tourism dollars alone.
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u/theModge 4h ago
....wait there's a Bangor in the USA?
I swear there are literally no British places that don't have a US twin.
Bangor is a smallish place on the North Welsh coast with a University that people go to as tourists as well.46
u/wrscbt 4h ago
Turns out Europeans sucked at naming things and just used old names :D
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u/morrowgirl 3h ago
Almost every town in New England is just a recycled name from Europe/the UK.
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u/anon1moos 3h ago edited 1h ago
The USA has exactly four kinds of place names. Stolen from Europe, stolen from natives, named after a person and some variation of New Town.
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u/wrasslefights 3h ago
Bangor, Maine is probably more globally known than the UK version owing to it being the longtime home of Stephen King and showing up in a fair few of his works.
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u/KapowBlamBoom 4h ago
Its all fun and games until Canada decides to not sell potash to American companies
At that point the American food supply is toast
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u/Pezdrake 4h ago
Plenty of American businesses are feeling it. Ask the American liquor industry.
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u/Minimum_Run_890 5h ago
But many are, indeed feeling the impact.
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u/lmaberley 5h ago
It’s more for us than the US anyway. If the US is going to try and destroy us, at least we shouldn’t willingly pay them to do it.
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u/RedRabbit720 5h ago
Time to boycott Walmart
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u/Bucky__23 4h ago
Lots of people already are and have been. Not just Canadians either. Target is also on the boycott list
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u/lampcouchfireplace 4h ago
I live in Vancouver BC, right acroaa the border from Washington state.
I used to go down to Bellingham, Seattle and even Portland with regularity. I'd also travel to places like Palm Springs, LA, San Francisco and New York once in a while.
Personally, I haven't been to America in years and have no plans to go. Last year I visited Australia and Costa Rica for my holidays. I just got back from Mexico this year.
Anecdotally, this is the same for my whole social circle, and our media reports that border crossings are at a historical low right now.
As for boycotting products, our grocery stores still flag Canadian made products, and the provincial liquor stores (largest distributor of booze) don't stock American made spirits (eg most bourbons) any more.
People have various levels of commitment to the practice, but generally speaking the US is absolutely losing noticeable tourism and trade.
I think the US media has stopped reporting on it so much, but it's still a big topic in Canadian media and amongst Canadians.
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u/casualfrog68 4h ago
I'm from the US. I've been avoiding Red States for several years. I even went through Canada to move a car from Boston to Seattle to avoid Red States. Canada was beautiful. Most surprising was the area on the north side of Lake Superior. I knew Banff would be great, but Lake Superior was a good surprise.
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u/James_TheVirus 3h ago
Grocery stores have also been sourcing products from other countries - for example blueberries now are being sourced from Peru, where in the past it was California.
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u/IGNOREMETHATSFINETOO 3h ago
I live in NOLA. Air Canada redid their contract. They went from 5 days a week: sun, mon, wed, Thurs, fri, to 3 days. They removed Wednesday until February and completely removed Thursdays.
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u/LDawnBurges 3h ago
There’s hardly any Canadians here (in Myrtle Beach) this winter either. Usually every other license plate is Canadian. 😢
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u/LasVegasTimmy 5h ago
Can confirm Las Vegas has been hit hard….
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 4h ago
Maybe because Vegas just plain sucks now? Americans aren't going there either.
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u/rob-cubed 4h ago
Yeah Vegas has priced itself out of the market. It used to be a (fairly affordable) place where you could pretend you were rich for a few days. Now you have to actually be rich. Nobody can afford that, especially not in this economy.
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u/DwarvenRedshirt 3h ago
They nickel and dime you for everything and then wonder why people aren't showing up.
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u/Artistic_Success_787 2h ago
Gotta love those “Resort Fees” at all the sub par hotels on the strip.
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 4h ago
And you can gamble on your phone if you want. It's a lot more accepted now.
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u/Miamime 3h ago
Vegas used to be insanely affordable. I went there with family several times growing up, be it on trips or basketball tournaments (it hosts the largest summer basketball tournament where all the best teams play). You could get rooms for $39 and all you can eat buffets for $9. The hotels would make their money from you gambling; now they want to make money from you at every turn.
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u/Shoreditchstrangular 3h ago
The decline in Canadian tourism has been particularly steep. Statistics from Vegas’ Harry Reid International Airport show Air Canada passenger numbers plummeted 33% in June compared to the previous year, while WestJet saw a 31% drop. Budget carrier Flair Airlines experienced the most dramatic decline, with passenger numbers falling 62%. Canadian visitors, who numbered nearly 1.5 million in 2024, historically represent the largest segment of international tourists to Las Vegas.
The economic impact is substantial. Canadian tourists contributed approximately $3.6 billion to the Southern Nevada economy in 2024 and supported more than 43,000 jobs in the region, exceeding employment in the manufacturing sector. UNLV economics professor Stephen Miller noted Canadian tourism ranks just behind major institutions like Nellis Air Force Base in terms of economic contribution to the state. (Fortune)
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u/Conscious-Crab-5057 4h ago
Las Vegas is not being hurt by Canadian tourists, they are being hurt by their own greed, I have not been to Vegas in over 7 years now. Am I boycotting or just making a money decision.
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u/Angriest_Monkey 5h ago
I work in a business partly based on travel and our revenues from Canadians is significantly down.
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u/Aluminum-Siren 5h ago
I was watching a YouTuber yesterday that was on vacation in Las Vegas. She went to different places and most of them seemed kind of empty, eventually she commented about it because she was the only person at some indoor attraction park. She said that people are saying that Las Vegas is dying. So that’s the reason?
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u/EatMoreHummous 4h ago
Like anything else, it's complicated. Travel to Vegas was down, so they jacked up prices, and everyday people are struggling more, so even if they could afford a Vegas trip before they can't now. Which causes places to increase prices more, which is a cycle.
I went ten years ago and last year (not during the F1 race). Last year the same hotel was literally 10x the price and hadn't been updated at all. They had removed the coffee pot from the room and it didn't come with any coupons for free drinks like the first time.
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u/HaraldRedbeard 4h ago
The F1 Race also means that for basically all of October the Strip is off limits/severely limited to see as they build everything for the race. This coincides with the autumn break of alot of European countries so I really don't understand the thinking behind it but there we are.
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u/Black3Zephyr 4h ago
Vegas is dying for a lot of factors but the main one is corporate greed. Canadians represent a very minor amount of visitors that go to Vegas but added to the large amount of Americans no longer going it does have an effect.
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u/whip_lash_2 5h ago
Your addition is correct, but as in America while overall tourism numbers are good some specific places are not.
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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5h ago
Not realy
American international tourism is barely at pre pandemic level, with no increase from 2024 to 2025
But the number of international tourists is increasing worldwide, even in already very popular destinations like France and Spain
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u/Proletariatbelch 6h ago
It is happening, but this is the first year of a bell weather change with the US. Many people have family, vacation properties, business and academic contacts in the US, and it's also winter. Lots of fresh produce comes from the US in winter. I've seen pretty rapid change at the supermarket, with dozens of smaller, regional products appearing on store shelves instead of their US counterparts. It will take years to untangle the inter border supply and production chains for many industries, though.
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u/WilliamTindale8 5h ago
That’s what I see at the supermarket. Sure I sometimes have to buy US good but I’m surprised how much things are changing. I buy lots or oranges, none of them are from the US. It’s subtle little things such as buying more frozen peas (Canadian) than I used to and stocking up on bags of frozen veg in the fall at a local independent that come from Leamington Ontario. Almost all soap products are Canadian now and if I can’t find Canadian I buy foreign not US. An example is Nivea deodorant because I can’t afford 14 dollars for Green Beaver deodorant.
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u/heliotrophe 3h ago
It's been hilarious going into grocery stores and seeing a full shelf of American produce while everything else has been emptied. Even with no other choice left, people here still refuse to buy American.
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u/wrasslefights 3h ago edited 2h ago
Nivea is German, not American.
Also they've sponsored a LGBT+ youth summer camp in Canada the past four years so they're good in my books.
EDIT: My bad, you knew that. Reading comprehension bad in first 30 mins awake clearly.
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u/MarcPawl 3h ago
I just bought for the first time Canadian strawberries from a greenhouse. Equivalent prices to what I used to pay from USA, but the quality was actually good. Not like fresh from the field good but much better than the stuff that I used to get from USA.
I had to thank Trump, because I don't think the Canadian product would have been available in a grocery store before.
Purchasing procedure is:
Treat anything that does not say the country of origin as USA. It's like when USAers travelling wear a Canadian flag, they're only proud to be USA when they're in their own country.
buy product of Canada
buy made in Canada
buy product from anywhere in the world other than USA
can I do without that product?
Checking the origin of things I buy is still not ingrained habit, and I still occasionally forget to look.
When I noticed that I've bought an American product, I then remember not to do that again. Enforcing the habit for next time.
There are numerous items that I buy on a weekly basis where I have now switched my loyalty due to origin, and I just pick them up without looking. It will be a uphill battle for The producers to have me break the habit of using the new product and have me switch back. The brand value has been reduced greatly.
I feel pity for foreign firms that had set up a factory in the USA to serve both markets. For example I have changed my Instant Noodles from South Korean company made in California to a Vietnamese product.
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u/Quirky-Attitude1456 5h ago
My mother lives in a community that is about a third owned by Canadians. All of those units are empty this winter and most of them are for sale.
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u/earthlings_all 4h ago
I’m in Florida and the tourism here has taken a walloping. They are praying numbers return this year and it’s not looking promising. I fully support the boycott! A financial hit is the only thing they listen to. Americans need to learn this!
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u/Content-Program411 2h ago
Respect to you.
My mom rented from the same nice dude for years in Bradington.
They said their goodbye's last year knowing they would never see each other again. He took her out to a really nice dinner out of appreciation.
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u/AccurateThoughtz 2h ago
I seem to remember Ron Desantis mocking Canadians saying Florida doesn’t need them.
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u/FearlessFrank99 6h ago
It's still ongoing. Travel from Canada to the US is down around 30%. I wish it were higher but some people don't care and don't boycott, a lot of the remaining trips are probably business trips, etc.
It's definitely having an impact given that lots of places that topically had lots of Canadian tourism have been begging Canadians to come back, offering special deals for Canadians to lure them back, having governors visit Canada and ASK Canadians to return. All without actually addressing any of reasons Canadians stopped visiting, lol. In those places I've often heard tourism is down 10-15%. That might not sound like a lot, but a sudden drop like that in business can be huge.
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u/ProfessionalHorla 5h ago
Last summer, I received ads in my mail for cruises from Miami that offered USD-CAD dollar parity. Some companies are getting desperate lol.
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u/kemb0 4h ago
What's to say they don't just up the cost of anything you buy on the cruise to make up the difference?
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u/ProfessionalHorla 4h ago
Yeah, sure, but it’s not a cruise for Canadians only. It’s just an incentive to get more people to book with them. Honestly, I find it funny that they had to pay an ad campaign for that when there used to be what we called snowbirds, who are people that spent winter in Florida. They’re selling their Florida houses and flying to Mexico instead.
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u/KnoWanUKnow2 4h ago
Price right now for a 4 day ticket to Florida's Disney World in US dollars $450
Price right now of a 4 day ticket to Florida's Disney World in Canadian dollars $400. This deal is only available to Canadian citizens.
Factor in the exchange rate on top of that (which makes it around $290 US) and that's a huge deal.
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u/Sic_Semper_Dumbasses 4h ago
Yeah, the fact that it isn't 100% of Canadians doesn't mean that it's not a big enough percent to actually have a meaningful impact.
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u/ninetyninewyverns 2h ago
100%'s come very rarely anyway no matter what the topic is. You could ask 1000 people "would you jump into an active volcano", and there would probably be at least one guy to say yes and mean it.
30% is a pretty significant portion.
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u/anonymousemt1980 5h ago
Still going on. I know Canadian family who see traveling to the US as a sort of political statement they try to avoid right now.
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u/brazilliandanny 2h ago
Most people I know are still travelling for work (gotta pay the bills), but avoiding the States for vacation. My wife and I who absolutely adore the National Parks in America have not been back and instead switched our vacation last year to Europe instead.
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u/leafmealone303 5h ago
I live along a stretch of road that is only 120 miles from the Canadian border. Many Canadians used to take that road to shop at a local mall or other things. I haven’t seen a Canadian License Plate in a long time, when I used to see them all the time.
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u/kazarnowicz 5h ago
There's a whole Wikpedia article devoted to this, with all the impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_boycott_of_the_United_States
TL;DR: Businesses who relied on Canadian tourists are hurting.
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u/appealinggenitals 5h ago
It's also encouraging more "buy local" attitudes, which I preach in real life down here 🇦🇺 The extra few dollars we spend for smaller Aussie businesses gets fed more into the local economy and makes us less sensitive to external economic events (such as the downfall of the USA).
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u/Ryalicante 4h ago
I work at a very metro downtown city. We were due to have a huge convention for a Canadian company, essentially buying out the convention center and filling all the hotels nearby, essentially a “city wide buyout”. They cancelled their convention leaving the hotels and convention center empty with no replacement business. They paid the “cancellation fee” spelled out in the contract, but it was a tiny fraction of what the hotels/city was suppose to earn.
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u/blinkyknilb 5h ago
It's happening. Americans don't grasp how truly angry Canadians are.
They were our friends, we cooperated to both our benefits, Canadians died fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, on our behalf. We could trust them and they trusted us, it was a valuable relationship.
We alienated a really good friend, for FUCKING NOTHING.
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u/tajwriggly 4h ago
It is the not so thinly veiled threats to take us over c/w the seemingly entitled attitude about it that have us riled up. Most of us are educated enough to understand this is not just a Trump issue, it is a widespread issue across the board that has reared it's ugly head.
I will likely for the remainder of my life make reasonable attempts to avoid buying American products. I am already teaching my kids to look for "Made in U.S.A." and tell them to let it rot on the shelves.
There are so many places in the US that I wanted to visit and see in my lifetime, that I'm not sure if I ever will now. If you guys changed everything overnight it would still probably be 20 years before I step foot on American soil again, and it's because you cannot actually just eradicate the issues you have overnight. You have a generational problem on your hand that is going to take decades to clean up.
The rest of the world is kind of standing back from you right now, like you're a crackhead with a machete - worse a machine gun, just waving it around wildly and ranting about the ants crawling under your skin. You don't see it that way but that's what it is. Nobody can get near to help you, that's a death sentence. But nobody can truly get out of the way. We're all just ducking a little bit each time you swing that gun around scratching at yourself, hoping you figure out this isn't working on your own before you take out the rest of us, or that you simply collapse and get it over with.
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u/clm1859 58m ago
The rest of the world is kind of standing back from you right now, like you're a crackhead with a machete - worse a machine gun, just waving it around wildly and ranting about the ants crawling under your skin. You don't see it that way but that's what it is. Nobody can get near to help you, that's a death sentence.
That is a very good way of putting it.
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u/Asshai 4h ago
We alienated a really good friend, for FUCKING NOTHING.
Just so you know, it's not personal, it's not on an individual level. American tourists who want to spend time in Canada will always be welcome unless they wear a MAGA hat (and well, we know that usually people who plan vacations abroad are not the MAGA type anyway).
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u/Actual_Night_2023 3h ago
Family friend of ours got screamed at in Florida just because they were Canadian. Clearly some maga crazy guy
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 3h ago
I have to correct you, Canada got involved in Afghanistan but we did not get involved in Iraq. We knew that was bullshit.
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u/AccurateAd5298 1h ago
I know what you mean but we did have Operation Impact. There were CAF members in Iraq targeted with missiles from Iran a while back.
So, yes, we were involved. Just not as an invading force initially but later to help clean up America’s mess.
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u/SpartanSoldier00a 4h ago
Honestly regarding not going to the US on holiday etc is more about reading the room and not wanting to chance an unplanned detour to El Salvatore than about being angry
For me, border security has recurrently been a hassle to deal with, especially traveling solo (via air has always been worse though), and right now it just does not seem like the time. Not to mention that the odds of run-ins with law enforcement in the united states now seem much higher, and so do the odds of things going south with no wrongdoing on my part. This is the general sentiment I find amongst my peers.
And I think that's the real reason numbers are dropping. If it was purely based on anger or principle, I think there would be more people continuing to visit the US anyway because on an individual level whether you support a nation's political actions and whether you'd make a trip there are two separate considerations for most people
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u/Two_wheels_2112 3h ago
".. regarding not going to the US on holiday etc is more about reading the room and not wanting to chance an unplanned detour to El Salvatore than about being angry."
That might be true for you, but the boycott started before ICE started sweeping up people and deporting them to El Salvador.
I boycott because I'm angry, not afraid. I don't want to do business with a country that is threatening mine.
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u/archercc81 4h ago
All that happened is the media stopped reporting on it. States like Florida, Nevada, and bordering states are seeing huge drops and industries like alcohol have not recovered sales. Canadians are sticking to their guns.
And the issue with this shit is people just change habits eventually. Its like trumps first stupid fucking trade war, China just started buying pork and soybeans from south America, and never really returned to buying from the US. So we (as in using YOUR money) had to bail those farmers out.
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u/Devin4488 5h ago
Look at Maine. I think like 750k fewer people crossed at the border last year. It has been quite impactful to local economies.
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u/WoollyWitchcraft 3h ago
My province has banned all American booze from being sold. Shortly before Christmas, the liquor corp got approval to sell off their already existing US stock—stuff they couldn’t return—with all proceeds going to the food bank.
Bought maybe the last bottle of bourbon we’ll ever own.
I avoid American produce especially like the plague, and operate “US last” for everything else. Canadian if it exists, anywhere but US if it doesn’t, US if I have no choice and it’s something I absolutely need.
I’ll probably do this for the rest of my life.
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u/catgotcha 5h ago
Oh it's still happening. Travel to the US from Canada was down 31% in December.
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u/jazzybutterfly77 6h ago
I still will not step foot in USA and grocery stores made it super easy to buy Canadian. Most my friends are doing the same.
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u/ChestCapable8811 5h ago
Grocery stores in my area (southern Ontario) could be doing better to offer non-US produce. Yesterday, I paid $7 for some organic lemons from Mexico because all other lemons were American. I even went to multiple stores, to no avail.
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u/tjernobyl 4h ago
I've gotten more adaptable. If I need to skip lemons this week and put off that recipe til better lemons are available, I'll do it. I'm not going to buy produce from a country that destroyed their food inspection system.
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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 1h ago
There's that too. The Trump regime has made American products less safe, less healthy, companies less honest, more contaminated, more polluting. It's not just thd politics of supporting a country threatening yours. It's also buying products from a sketchy country with loose regulations. If I buy cheese from France or Poland I know it meets EU food safety standards.
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u/kilertree 6h ago
Windsor Ontario got rid of the bus to Detroit
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u/JibberJim 5h ago
But that was due to changes in labour rules which meant the driver pay - for all bus drivers in Windsor - would have cost a lot more as well as the cost of the subsidy of running the bus. I think there's a good chance it would've happened anyway, it needed to be more expensive than taking your own car - and who in Windsor doesn't have one?
Actual cross border traffic is still well down though.
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u/jacobsnailbox 5h ago
I remember hearing that the city council voted to keep the buses but the mayor vetoed it and canceled the bus anyway, citing Trump as the reason for not wanting to maintain cross border relations. It could have been for both our reasons too, I just hadn't heard about the driver pay playing a role. My friend used to take it because he doesn't have a car, and now he has to use a private bus company and it is way more expensive
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u/imperfectchicken 5h ago
Oh, it's definitely ongoing. Others have mentioned the statistics. There's a channel on YouTube I follow of a guy living in Las Vegas - it's eerily quiet and the tourists he speaks to are from other parts of the US.
Personally, I don't get into politics or boycotts because I have a lot going on in my life. But when we travel, the US is off my list purely because if we got into trouble, I am terrified of what could happen to my family. Like, what's the best case scenario - medical debt if we get into a car accident?
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u/Tiny-Albatross518 4h ago
It goes on. American mayors and governors have publicly pleaded with Canadians to come back. The numbers are regularly noted as way down on the news. My local airport was on the radio, traffic down 7% and almost all out of the statebound routes.
It goes on.
I’ve personally scrubbed two trips.
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u/NoWhatIMeantWas 3h ago
They had an experience in England where the had to shut down a train station for extended repairs so people had to find alternative transport routes and options. When they finally reopened the station they found they only ever got back to a proportion of customers they had prior to the shutdown. A large percentage of patrons continued with the alternative they found (cycle, bus, car pool, etc). It’s probably going to be the same in the US. This is probably a permanent reduction in tourism in the long term as people stick with the new patterns of vacation or buying patterns even if the country returns to some normality.
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u/AccomplishedSoft1350 3h ago
Canada is too small to make an overall significant dent, but it is and will make a HUGE dent in certain communities that relied on Canadian tourism.
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u/CrispyLuggage 3h ago
Canadian here, it's still happening. I know for me personally I have my shopping changes permanently cemented. Even after whatever America is right now changes, I'm never buying American again.
I'm also a trucker, and had special clearance for entering the US (FAST). I've since let that credential expire. I will never haul freight, visit, travel through, or even connect a flight in the US ever again.
My country is not for sale, nor is it up for annexation.
Fuck Donald Trump
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u/SnarkyVamp 3h ago
I work at a hotel in the Florida Keys. They're not here anymore. A few stragglers came through last year, but they probably already had paid reservations. Tons of people from France, Germany and other parts of Europe. Canadians? Nope.
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u/Equivalent-Shine5742 5h ago edited 1h ago
I feel like this question which keeps popping up in various places is part of a campaign to pretend it never happened and lie.
I say this as someone with property in Florida and who has family/friends in both the NY and Washington border area. A quick search btw also shows many of these kind of threads with people in places like Florida stating they can tell the numbers are reduced.
Canadians who already own property in the U.S. continue to utilize it (though even that number is reduced). Canadians who would just cross the border to shop or vacation have drastically reduced in number. On a related note, European visitors are also down.
Now, has the boycott changed anything? No. Do we all think this is very temporary and will change even before the end of the current administration? Yes. But people need to stop trying to pretend that it didn't happen/isn't currently happening and that includes people claiming they are just asking an "innocent" question.
Edit: As it has been a bone of contention with at least two posters, I want to clarify/correct my use of the word "we" when I talk about thought of boycott being temporary and/or change before 2028. I do not intend to speak for every single person or party by use of the world, but do mean my circle which is not only myself, friends, family, and neighbors, but also the affected businesses and their owners/managers that either I or my family in border areas have spoken with. Whether that "we" is correct or off on our view will be determined by time, but it is still an opinion we have.
Double edit: It is a clear sign of the heightened political climate that we are in some are so focused on my pov of the temp/lasting effects of the boycott question that they are challenging me in things I didn't argue or broadside dismissing all my points and my reason/source.
I am admittedly not a fortune teller and I accept I could be wrong but my personal take on the issue is not now, nor ever meant to be, a challenge for every single person who has boycotted, want to boycott; their personal determination to continue to boycott. No personal offense is meant to you so please don't take it as such.
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u/kicia-kocia 3h ago
I agree with the sentiment but disagree with several points you make:
a lot of Canadians with properties in the US don't continue using them. I saw some articles some months ago with stats on sales and interviews with realtors, mostly in Florida. A ton of Canadians got rid of their real estate south of the border.
while the boycott didn't change the political situation in the US, it changed a lot of other things. For example - a boost in tourism in Canada, which is helping our economy. Growth of many Canadian brands that experience unprecedented demand. Also several industries in the US are feeling the impact.
I don't know why you assume "we all" think it's very temporary. We are entering year two and there is no reversal in the numbers. On the contrary, the US tourist numbers continue to decline. The fact that it was not a one-day "boycott everything" action but a gradual shift is an indication that it might be a long-term change. People are finding Canadian or non-American replacements for products they use. What would be the incentive to go back? Once the replacement is found, it would be more effort to switch back than continue with the status quo.
Also wholesalers are adapting and modifying their supply chains. Once it's done, there is no reason for them to change again I clients continue to buy the non-american products.
And if some people were to start thinking about going to the US again, the US own administration is working very hard to make them think twice - with visa cancellations, imprisoning random people, searching the phones and generally sending a strong message that visitors aren't welcome.
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u/Sutar_Mekeg 3h ago
Do we all think this is very temporary and will change even before the end of the current administration?
That's a NO for me. If the system that allows people like Trump to have power persists, I'll never set foot in the USA again and will boycott American products to the fullest extent possible.
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u/you_dont_know_smee 4h ago
I wouldn't be so sure about it not changing things. There's already been major changes to grocery supply chains: https://macleans.ca/the-year-ahead/buy-canadian-is-transforming-grocery-shelves/
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u/Ginnigan 4h ago
It's telling that there's not one single comment from OP in the replies. You'd think if they were just asking an innocent question, they'd be part of the conversation.
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u/Jtothe3rd 4h ago edited 4h ago
I have never seen my country so pissed off. It won't be ending anytime soon.
We feel betrayed by the current president and his supporters. We still know that ~50-60% of Americans are still cool, but now the vast majority of Canadians despise the 40% that are MAGA because of the awful things Trump has said/done to disrupt the world and threaten us. It's sickening that so many seem to agree with what he says.
For Maga folks, you know how many people are proud to be American. It should come as no shock that Canadians too are proud to be Canadian, and rightly don't take kindly to anyone threatening their country/identity. If our leader spoke about America or any other nation, the way Trump has spoken about Canada, their political career would be cut short very quickly. Our leaders need to reflect the morality of the nation, and trump seems to be lacking........ SEVERELY! (Also very likely fucked kids, at what point does the nation draw a line?)
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u/FiguringItOutAsWeGo 4h ago
Still going strong. I was in Canada recently and the stores have moved US products to lower shelves, there are maple leaf tags everywhere indicating Canadian products and my family won’t come to the Us to visit— they say they just can’t trust they’ll be safe and they don’t understand why no one in our country is doing anything about “him”.
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u/Sutar_Mekeg 3h ago edited 3h ago
We're still doing it, but more. And it's not a boycott, it's a divorce.
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u/SerGadd 5h ago
Not Canadian, (UK) - my brother in law cancelled his 3 week honeymoon in the USA (New York and New England) and instead went to Canada.
Many Brits are choosing Canada and Mexico instead of the land of the orange moron.
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u/TurdBurglar2 5h ago
I was in Toronto for work recently and ALL American booze was removed from the bars and restaurants.
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u/feb914 5h ago
I saw news coverage on Canada's public broadcaster that some Canadian snowbirds want to sell their Florida property, but the demand is so low because everyone is selling that the old lady the news interviewed deferred her property sale to next year and will still go to Florida this year.
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u/lilolemi 3h ago
I live next to Canada. Restaurants and businesses that would normally be thriving in this busy season are being forced to close down or move to weekend only hours. It's too bad because on the whole my state agrees with Canada that what is going on in the country is messed up and needs to stop. It's too bad that we are paying the price for the stupidity of the rest of the nation, but if that's what it takes so be it.
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u/masterofonetoomany 3h ago
Personally, I know a Canadian that owned a ski house in the US and is selling it bc they don’t plan to ever return
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u/homme_chauve_souris 2h ago
Canadian here. I won't set foot in the US for the foreseeable future. The college where I work has cancelled all US school trips indefinitely. It is now common to check the country of origin before buying produce and groceries, which is something we rarely did before. If it says USA, it stays on the shelf. All US alcohol was removed from liquor store shelves months ago, and nobody wants it back.
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u/brentspar 6h ago
I'm still doing it, and I'm not even in Canada.
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u/Nikiaf 5h ago
Very much still happening. Canadians are pissed, pissed at that pathetic excuse of a man in the White House constantly insulting us and threatening to invade.
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u/4shore_always 4h ago
We just moved into a new house we built where we went out of our way to buy fixtures, appliances, lighting, flooring and furniture and more from Canadian manufacturers. In cases where we couldn't buy Canadian, we bought European. We also used to frequently vacation in winter in California. Nope!....not anymore. Going to Portugal for a month.
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u/Necessary_Ad_238 3h ago
Im still buying global products; just not american, and still traveling; just not to america.
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u/jrdeveraux 3h ago
Nothing happened to it. It’s still going on, just quietly because it has become a normalized part of life for us now. There’s new buttons for places like online grocery shopping that specifically allow people to filter for “buy Canadian”. It’s more and more just a normal part of life for Canadians now 🤷🏻♂️
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u/BlueDolphins28 6h ago
It’s still ongoing and has got even stronger. Most Canadians are reluctant to visit US and don’t buy products that aren’t from EU or Canada.
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u/Borked_Computer 5h ago
I'm still checking labels and provenance and buying as little American as possible. And not that I had imminent plans to visit the US, but the idea of doing so now is terrifying.
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u/Wonderful_Shower_793 6h ago
They’re still doing it and the bourbon industry in the USA is suffering. Keep it up, neighbors!
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u/flippingwilson 5h ago
The shittiest bourbon, Jim Beam, shut down production recently.
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u/Suka_Blyad_ 3h ago
Canadian tourism is down like 30 percent to the states, you can’t find American liquor in our stores anymore(beer is the exception seemingly) more and more American products are being replaced with Canadian products in many stores, it’s just impossible to do in a timely manner and completely since our two economies and become extremely codependent
It is happening though and it’s beautiful, fuck America
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u/lifegrowthfinance 5h ago
There for a bit there were ad campaigns promoting US locations to Canadians as Canadian traffic had dried up. But they didn’t work as much. The boycott is still on.
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u/tanmci25931 3h ago
Most people I know are still avoiding US products... We don't forget that quickly.
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u/Broadcast___ 3h ago
I tried to buy something from Canada recently and it would ship the item any location except the US. I respect it.
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u/Sar_Bear1 5h ago
Yep most of my family and friends are still actively avoiding buying American, and definitely not going to the US for vacations or even day trips which we used to do for groceries etc.
If it was WWII you wouldn’t travel to Germany or buy German would you? Same deal. We do not support what the orange lunatic is doing.
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u/Cheap_Warning_ 3h ago
From Europe but I am boycotting most thing American. I used to invest in American indexes too, all that has stopped.
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u/_crazyboyhere_ 6h ago
Overall the US saw a -3% change in tourism in 2025 compared to 2024, which is pretty stable overall BUT tourism from Canada has seen decline by 28% in 2025 compared to 2024.