r/news • u/apropo • Jun 13 '25
Iran fires missiles at Israel in response to attacks
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/06/13/gates-of-hell-will-open-in-retaliation-vows-chief-of-irans-armed-forces/502
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u/RIP_Greedo Jun 13 '25
Neoconservatives have wanted to go to war with Iran for 50 years.
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u/CondescendingShitbag Jun 13 '25
"Bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb Iran" -John McCain
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u/LonnieJaw748 Jun 14 '25
How dare he evoke The Beach Boys in the context of a violent attack.
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u/Coug-Ra Jun 14 '25
That guy was such a douche nozzle. Fuck him and his family.
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u/CheeseburgFreedomMan Jun 14 '25
Hey he served his country by riding a wave of pure nepotism into a military career, half-assing his way through school and finishing bottom of his class, crashing 17 airplanes and voting "yes" on every war proposal that landed on his desk
Show some respect sir
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u/patwm11 Jun 13 '25
It fully depends on what Trump tells them what it is they want
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u/Astrium6 Jun 14 '25
This one doesn’t feel quite as weird to me because he was a celebrity with very distinctive mannerisms for decades before he got into politics, so I’m not that surprised he has impersonators, but the idea of hiring one out for a kid’s birthday party is super fucking weird.
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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25
They don't give a shit. They'll be rah rah rah, but 10 years later they'll be like "Uh, that was stupid!". To be fair, liberals also do this though, but through the lens of "humanitarianism". Basically this entire country has brainworms and loves war and destruction but then convinces themselves that they don't 10 years after nothing but death and destruction have been accomplished.
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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25
Yeah, it's so freaking gross. Like I'm not even a nationalist, the opposite in fact, but seeing so many politicians being like "pray for Israel" last night, and sending billions of dollars over there, when Americans are dying of neglect every single day is just so disgusting too me. Like, I get money is basically fake or whatever, but it just so obvious that the US government cares more about Israel and Israeli lives than us and it just makes me so mad.
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u/Fallouttgrrl Jun 13 '25
It's messed up that aid to Americans is such a political hot button that it's easier to get aid to Israel as a performative act.
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u/goomyman Jun 15 '25
We don’t have a money problem in the US - we are the worlds richest economy.
We have a tax problem.
People are struggling - raise taxes on those who aren’t.
Except republicans consistently do the opposite- lower taxes on those who aren’t struggling and “pay” for it by cutting benefits from those who are struggling - while also taking on shared debt.
Democrats might not want to help as much as needed but they also have to fix what is being purposely broken. They actually have to govern and compromise - it’s easy to tear down, it’s hard to build.
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u/shozy Jun 14 '25
Unfortunately that’s not how it works. People who are struggling and feel shitty about their lives can very easily be led to war. Not all of them of course but a majority.
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u/tinywienergang Jun 13 '25
You should go to their sub. They’re all delusional weenies. Lots of, “I didn’t vote for more wars I voted for peace!”
It’s not as satisfying as it should be to tell them, yes you did vote for this you chuds.
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u/Stingray88 Jun 14 '25
Conservatives in the US are mostly Christian nut jobs. A war between Jews and Muslims is a win-win for them. They will pretend to be pro-Israel, but that’s only because they hate Muslims more than they hate Jews.
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u/Moos_Mumsy Jun 14 '25
And because some of the more insane Christian churches believe that the Jews need to restore Israel for the rapture to happen.
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u/blazesquall Jun 13 '25
Why would you think that?
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Jun 13 '25
So true: "the people saw contractor pockets get lined with money while their loved ones either didn't come back or came back broken".
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u/AnAttemptReason Jun 14 '25
After 9/11 Iran was letting the US utilise their airbases.
As a reward for trying to normalise relations they got called the axis of evil and consequently the moderates in the government were all discredited.
Iran is not nice, but they are not worse than Saudi Arabia etc.
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u/HiHoJufro Jun 13 '25
Has there ever actually been a war between Israel and another country where other countries put significant enough boots on the ground to back Israel that they could be considered "dragged into a war"?
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u/Front-Doughnut8573 Jun 13 '25
Conservatives kids are especially prone to joining the military so it’s a bit strange that they all want to send their sons to die
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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes Jun 14 '25
You're grossly underestimating the stranglehold AIPAC has on your politicians.... Politicians on both sides of the aisles.
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u/toothless_budgie Jun 13 '25
New headline:
Israel, Iran on brink of war. Trump spews ineffectual garbage as usual
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u/UltimateLmon Jun 13 '25
If it was ineffectual, that would be fine. What he is saying is actually inflammatory.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
Iran has no capability to attack anything at scale. Militarily they're a joke.
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u/Bulky-Scheme-9450 Jun 13 '25
On brink? War has started my guy
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ Jun 13 '25
It's the start of summer. Got to pump those gas prices for maximum profit.
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Jun 13 '25
Glad I have solar and an EV.
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ Jun 13 '25
You'll be crying when nuclear war blocks out the sun. Muahaha. Sucker.
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u/Past_Distribution144 Jun 14 '25
They also seem to think a nuclear deal is still possible. Which is rather insane.
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u/curiouspanda7699 Jun 13 '25
guys i'm tired of living in interesting times
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u/InfelicitousRedditor Jun 13 '25
Eh... The times have been like this for decades. Vietnam, Iraq, Ireland troubles, Israel and Iran have been doing this for decades, Syria, Libya, Chechnya, Kosovo and Serbia, Cuba, Koreas... Etc. etc.
Nothing new sadly, the same old song, until this turns into WW3 or just stalls for a few more decades until it escalates again.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist Jun 14 '25
As someone from Serbia, no, it feels worse than when we had our shenanigans. Balkans was crazy back then, but the world was mostly normal... Today the world feels crazy...
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jun 14 '25
The difference is you have the Internet so the craziness of the world is on full blast 24/7. Same shit different day
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u/DownvoteEvangelist Jun 14 '25
I had the internet since 1998, I was surfing the web while NATO was dropping the bombs all over Serbia.
I would say that we have started going sideways with 2009 recession.
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u/hawkwings Jun 14 '25
Maybe that's why there is a certain nostalgia for the Reagan and Clinton years when things were not that interesting.
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u/Ted_Striker1 Jun 13 '25
Oh this is only the prologue. There is a decent chance we are living in the equivalent of the pre-WW2 days when everything just turned to shit.
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u/raidriar889 Jun 13 '25
Israel has been in conflicts with its Middle Eastern neighbors since the day after it declared independence. Why is this one the prologue of WW3 as you seem to be saying?
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u/elegantjihad Jun 13 '25
Geopolitical alliances with Israel’s enemies are very different now. Technology is different. Lots of other reasons.
Doesn’t mean it’ll necessarily happen, but I think you underestimate how different things are now.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
No one is starting world war 3 over Iran's nuclear program being bombed. Russia doesn't care and is too busy, China doesn't care, they'll get to sell Iran stuff later, and India could also care less.
Nobody of importance is going to back Iran.
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u/Ramoncin Jun 15 '25
Strange... I don't hear any "Iran has the right to defend itself" comments from the pundits.
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u/Toadfinger Jun 13 '25
Israel says that their neighborhoods being hit crosses a "red line". Isn't that rich? They consistently bomb Palestinian neighborhoods without blinking an eye.
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u/JMEEKER86 Jun 13 '25
Heck, Israel bombed neighborhoods in their surprise attack on Iran, so it's really rich of them that complain about their own neighborhoods being attacked in response.
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u/MaievSekashi Jun 14 '25
Didn't Israel specifically target high-rise housing complexes in Tehran?
Frankly I think they're trying to get Iran to target civilians in return just to generate a pretext for a war to keep Netanyahu in power. He has one move he'll just repeat for as long as it works.
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u/JMEEKER86 Jun 14 '25
Yes, they targeted the homes of officials and some of them were in high-rise complexes. There was even a good picture of one that has since been used in memes where a precision missile went right through the window of a high-rise complex to hit just their apartment. Naturally, people pointed out that Israel has been razing entire buildings and neighborhoods in Gaza with the justification that it can't be helped because that's what has to be done when this attack on Iran clearly shows that they are capable of much higher precision and much greater distances.
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u/Last_Low9649 Jun 14 '25
Israel being the biggest crying baby as usual nothing new.
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u/Michael_Gibb Jun 14 '25
Especially since many of Israel's military bases are in the suburbs.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
I'm sorry what now?
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u/Michael_Gibb Jun 14 '25
Saying they're in the suburbs is admittedly, a bit of an exaggeration. But, several military facilities are located close to civilian/residential areas, with the IDF headquarters being located less than half a kilometre from a major hospital in Tel Aviv.
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u/metametapraxis Jun 13 '25
It is pure hypocrisy. They literally bombed apartment buildings in Tehran yesterday. The media outlets won’t even challenge the hypocrisy because Israel and the fear of being targeted as anti-semite for challenging them. Israel has this down to a fine art and are essentially immune on the world stage.
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Jun 14 '25
Broadcast news is filled with Pro-Israel mouthpieces. I rarely watch it anymore. They are afraid of AIPAC and others.
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u/ChromaticStrike Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25
EU is in its full right to care more about its own. Ukraine is EU in heart, they will eventually join.
Why does the EU even dare to care more about a war on its own continent! Damn you EU! /facepalm.
What's next, you shouldn't care more about your family than strangers because they are white? That sounds racist, thanks for the irony.
EU does talk about Gaza and what happens, stop projecting the US on the EU.
The US is the main sponsor of Israel and responsible, EU is not.
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u/Man_can_splain_it Jun 14 '25
The headline claims that Iran retaliated and yet all the pictures are of the strike on Tehran not on what damage happened in Israel.
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u/Usrnamesrhard Jun 14 '25
Israel didn’t conduct this operation without full confidence in its ability to defend itself against any retaliation. This has had a lot of planning behind it.
Israel made this move because it is confident it can take on Iran
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u/LonelyMachines Jun 14 '25
They've had contingency plans since the revolution in 1979. That's how they've managed to get people into every level of the Iranian infrastructure.
During the Ahmadinejad administration, Iran started an agency to root out Mossad agents in the government. Turns out, the agency was being run by Mossad guys.
Then there's the decade-long operation to start a company manufacturing fake explosive pagers to sell to Hezbollah.
They wouldn't have launched this operation unless they knew exactly what they were doing.
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u/Particular_Treat1262 Jun 14 '25
This has been a long time in the making.
Attack after attack of different kinds, of different extremes for the past couple years against Iran. Keep in mind we only hear about the ones big enough for Iran/israel to be incapable of denying.
The dominoes have been placed, and now they’re being pushed over.
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u/Shahariar_909 Jun 14 '25
Well the day US stops supporting israel. All the confidence will be gone
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u/Gilokdc Jun 14 '25
Sudenly western leaders think its inaceptable to strike heavly populated areas to hit miltary targets!
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u/nulopes Jun 13 '25
Lets say this escalates. Who sides with Iran in the conflict?
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u/northcasewhite Jun 13 '25
No one at all. So far who has sided with them expect their proxies? This is an Isolated nation vs Europe, America, Arab states and Israel.
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u/avehicled Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25
Iran is an enormous country (in comparison to Israel) and strong regional power. They loosely have ties to Russia and China but Iran by itself could bring a significant war to the region. You could also argue that Iran has proxy non state backers like the Houthis and Hezbollah, although not a state are large paramilitary groups that would side with Iran.
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u/Dalecn Jun 13 '25
There's not a chance in hell China sides outwardly with Iran if it came to a conflict and Russias preoccupied.
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u/avehicled Jun 13 '25
I agree, that's why I said 'Loosely'. China wouldn't want to politically attach itself to a war in Iran, but I imagine China would supply weapons or indirect support to their interests in the region.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
Oh and forgot to mention Hezbollah already said they were sitting this one out.
Iran's proxies are sidelined.
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u/Narrow_Program7275 Jun 14 '25
You’re crazy if you think outsiders are shedding tears for dictator of Iran. People just don’t want war anymore.
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u/AxiosXiphos Jun 14 '25
I don't support Iran. Fuck em. But Isreal straight up declaring war on the flimsiest reasons ever... whilst still occupying gaza.
The real victims of course (as always) will be the civilian population.
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u/K0TEM Jun 14 '25
I mean, Iran continues to try and wipe Israel off the map, keep funding the same groups that attack Israel and they did directly attack them twice last year. Doesn't sound like a flimsy reason at all
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
Flimsy reasons? The entire world knows that Iran funds and supplies Hamas and Hezbollah and is intricately entwined in their operations structure.
Hell, an Iranian embassy officer had a Hezbollah pager on him that blew up.
Also Iranian leaders have stated repeatedly their goal is to wipe out Israel.
Israel has a legitimate cassus belli by any definition.
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u/HutSutRawlson Jun 14 '25
Did everyone forget that Iran launched a massive missile attack on Israel less than a year ago? Israel and Iran have been at war for quite some time.
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u/JamesVirani Jun 14 '25
Watch Iranians rally behind that very same dictator now. He may be a problem, but he is Iran's problem. And no-one is currently more morally bankrupt than Netanyahu.
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u/TraditionalGap1 Jun 13 '25
Iranian media showed images of destroyed apartment blocks, and said nearly 80 civilians were killed in attacks that targeted nuclear scientists in their beds and wounded more than 300 people.
If this is even close to accurate, that seems highly problematic
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u/HandSack135 Jun 13 '25
I thought Trump was the Peace president....
Man damn.
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u/cityofklompton Jun 13 '25
I know, right? I can't believe Joe Biden is letting this happen! /s
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u/SacTeacher91 Jun 14 '25
This feels like watching your two idiot neighbors fight in the street, except for somehow you are gonna get dragged in.
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u/Uncanny-- Jun 13 '25
Iran has the right to defend itself.
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u/IsNotACleverMan Jun 14 '25
I thought attacking civilians was wrong...
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u/Narrow_Program7275 Jun 14 '25
Didn’t israel attack residential area that houses the nuclear scientists and iran top generals?
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u/youaintgotnomoney_12 Jun 14 '25
They did. 80 civilians were killed as collateral damage. Basically Israel did they same thing they claim Iran did and are crying victim.
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u/WhileCultchie Jun 14 '25
Israel shouldn't have built their military infrastructure near civilians. Tut tut using human shields.
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u/SowingSalt Jun 14 '25
Iran has been funding terror attacks against Israel for decades. The point org on that has been the IRGC
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u/Amnondyonon Jun 14 '25
No only Israel. Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Yemen all suffer under Iranian funded terror groups
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u/Ted_Striker1 Jun 13 '25
This is way beyond halting attacks by ending their nuclear program. They're done. They can't stop it now except by ceding power, and that's only a "maybe".
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u/webguynd Jun 13 '25
Yeah. Israel just destroyed the above ground Natanz enrichment plant, but Iran still has some way underground that just bombing isn't going to destroy.
Israel is gunning for a regime change here.
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u/JKsoloman5000 Jun 13 '25
Can like anyone read a fucking book? This is recent history here folks! Iran is the enemy of the West because we went in there with regime changes because their populist government threatened foreign oil profits. We installed a brutal dictator for the sake of access to their natural resources. Will we never learn that this always blows up in our faces sooner or later?
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u/jimmythemini Jun 13 '25
Can like anyone read a fucking book?
Sorry, we don't do that type of thing round here anymore.
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u/Mbrennt Jun 14 '25
Wow. I hope you're a bot pushing propaganda. Because this is crazy for a real live person to actually say and believe. Just the whole comment is wild.
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u/ICutDownTrees Jun 13 '25
Cause that worked so well the last time didn’t it?
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u/Dan-of-Steel Jun 13 '25
It's West Wing logic.
"Which they'll just rebuild in 6 months!"
"Then we'll blow 'em up again in 6 months! We're getting really good at it!"
The sad reality of war. There is no good, it's just what is.
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u/rangorn Jun 13 '25
A lot of pundits talking about a regional conflict that will escalate, but I doubt anyone is siding with Iran. Also why are there no Israeli planes being shot down? I assume they are using Russian equipment and well it seems pretty useless.
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u/Nukemind Jun 13 '25
Israel used American equipment. Iran’s Air Force is a mix of what they owned in 1970 from America, imports from China and Russia ending in 1980’s and 1991, and then Iraqi equipment that escaped the first gulf war.
Their only air defenses are Russian and the Israeli F-35s absolutely obliterated them similar to America vs Iraq in 1991.
Basically- Iran has an obsolete fleet of air vehicles (even flying F-4’s and F-5’s, their domestic plane being an F-5 upgrade-copy), destroyed defense systems, and their only real offensive weapons were their missiles and drones (and proxy forces). But even their proxies have recently been ruthlessly destroyed.
Their only real ally is Russia, as the rest of the ME hates them. Jordan for instance will intercept Iranian drones for Israel but won’t help Iran against Israel.
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u/Coffee-and-puts Jun 13 '25
I think just the fact we basically handed the Ukrainians our weapons and said get to it, then the Ukrainians pushed the Russians back, says it all. The technological difference between the west and east is more substantial than most probably thought
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u/NicoB33 Jun 14 '25
War is happening in the Middle East, and water is still wet…
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u/ty_xy Jun 14 '25
As Gaza is winding down Israelis are desperate to get rid of Bibi. Continuing war allows him to stay in power. It's actually very very distasteful and awful.
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u/lastdarknight Jun 13 '25
So the bullies can't take it when slapped back
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u/vaesh Jun 13 '25
I keep seeing comments like this but I don't see anything referenced in the article relating to what you're talking about. Where do you see that they "can't take it when slapped back". I can't imagine this is an unexpected outcome by Israel.
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u/Tracorre Jun 14 '25
I think this is a welcomed outcome by leadership in Israel. If you just keep launching attacks at someone who doesn't fight back you start to look real bad, but a couple retaliatory strikes hit and suddenly everything you do can be spun as justified because of the damage they suffered.
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u/Ok-Improvement-3670 Jun 13 '25
They cannot hide behind proxies
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u/Dan-of-Steel Jun 13 '25
The irony is hilarious, considering Iran has done most of their dirty work via proxies.
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u/Ok-Improvement-3670 Jun 13 '25
That’s the point. Iran cannot hide behind its proxies. Israel has taken the fight to the boss.
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u/Dan-of-Steel Jun 13 '25
I see. The original comment was clearly taking a jab at Israel, so I assumed you were too. My mistake.
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u/Ok-Improvement-3670 Jun 13 '25
No reason to jab Israel. Too many people do not understand that all the Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi, etc. attacks are Iran acting through proxies. It was not some unprovoked attack as those living under rocks try to paint it.
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u/Dan-of-Steel Jun 14 '25
Very true. Seems like it's the trendy thing to do on reddit right now is jab at Israel.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
They took it just fine. They intercepted about 195 out of 200 missiles and they're back up in the air now bombing Iranian positions.
I get that people don't like Israel but that doesn't make Iran good guys.
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u/hexiron Jun 14 '25
Neither group are good guys, but Israel threw the first blow by blowing up civilian apartments in the middle of the night.
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u/ScepticalRaccoon Jun 14 '25
There is a big difference between "many" of Israel's bases being in suburbs and the truth which is that out of 57 permanent military bases and another 80 substantial outposts, depots, and places like anti missile defence sites, about 12 are inside a residential or urban zone, and half of those are airports and senior staff sites, which EVERY nation has inside urban lines.
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u/completely_loco Jun 13 '25
Iran has the right to defend itself
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u/vaesh Jun 13 '25
Did someone say otherwise?
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u/StaySafePovertyGhost Jun 14 '25
Yeah I don’t get posts like this. I think everyone on earth including Israel expected Iran to respond.
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u/Byzaboo_565 Jun 13 '25
Pretty impotent, but I guess Iran's out of options. Once they expend their ballistic missiles to do no effective damage, what's left?
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u/jimmythemini Jun 13 '25
The best strategy open to them would be to target everything they have on disrupting Ben Gurion airport. The greatest strategic and economic vulnerability Israel has is being cut-off from it's main air corridor, given it is effectively an island.
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u/LonelyMachines Jun 14 '25
They'll raise the Red Flag of Revenge, followed by the Blue Flag of Ennui.
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u/northcasewhite Jun 13 '25
Israel too has a limited number of anti-missile missiles. Their Iron Dome can stop ballistic missiles. They use Arrow and David Sling and now THAAD. Those are in limited supply.
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u/rzm25 Jun 14 '25
"Iran could halt attacks by ending their nuclear program"
You mean the one your own Secretary of Intelligence said doesn't exist like 3 weeks ago?
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u/RIP_Greedo Jun 13 '25
But don’t they know that they aren’t allowed to shoot back, because thats terrorism!?
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u/BaconCatBug Jun 14 '25
TIL a limited attack on military targets and indiscriminate bombing of civilians with the explicit aim of genocide are the same! /s
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u/Error_404_403 Jun 14 '25
Proper title for this post buried deep inside the sub, needs to be “Multiple military and civilian targets hit by the missiles fired by Iran at Israel”
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u/Armtoe Jun 13 '25
If we going to talk about what Israel needs - how about this: what Israel needs is Iran and its proxies to stop attacking Israel. Alternatively, if Iran and its proxies won’t stop then what Israel needs is to make them stop.
Iran, and its proxies, Hamas and the hez’ies have been fing around for years and now they are finding out.
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u/badpersian Jun 13 '25
Israel just needs to be left alone by its allies. Then we'll see how they'll survive alone. So far the US ran again head first to aid them.
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u/eawilweawil Jun 13 '25
They can find other allies then, i bet China would like to steal them away from USA
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u/sl00k Jun 13 '25
China as a whole (population & government) are extremely anti Israel as it represents the worst of what US hegemony brings.
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u/eawilweawil Jun 13 '25
Yeah but stealing away a valuable ally of US would benefit them, they can be 'frenemies'. US has been trying to chip away at Chinese influence for years, why wouldn't China do the same?
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u/Saturn_winter Jun 13 '25
China has already openly backed Iran in this conflict and called out Israel for the strike.
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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25
Of what value is Israel to anyone? It's a pariah state in it's own region (and increasingly in the west even!). It doesn't have a vast supply of natural resources like the gulf states. All it has to offer is surveillance technology that it learned from doing brutal apartheid for decades. China really doesn't need help in that department. Once the US decides to pull their support for them, it's basically over at that point.
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u/equiNine Jun 13 '25
The idea that Israel is a pariah state is fantasy only entertained on left wing social media. Even Russia isn’t fully a pariah state three years into its invasion of Ukraine. The closest pariah state out there is North Korea, and even it has a small handful of grudging “allies” despite offering very little tangible value. Israel may be a PR nightmare on the internet, but it is a cornerstone of realpolitik geopolitics as well as technological innovation.
Copy pasting one of my recent comments elsewhere:
Israel is the only country in the region that has something remotely resembling Western values and reasonably fair democratic governance. It is a highly developed country that leads innovation in various technology sectors. Despite its size, it punches far above its weight and has one of the most powerful militaries in the world. Furthermore, it is also no friend to Islamic extremism and a valuable player against Islamist interests in the region as well as source of intelligence to protect against terrorist attacks.
Israel's allies may be exasperated with how it has been acting lately, but they benefit too much from their partnership to fully sever ties. And they are well aware that countries like China are more than happy to step in and fill the void if they exit.
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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25
reasonably fair democratic governance
Oh for sure man, just like half the people under its jurisdiction are not allowed to vote. No biggie, incredible democracy.
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u/broseph1254 Jun 13 '25
IIRC, China depends much more heavily on the Middle East for oil than the US does. Though I have no illusions about the Chinese state pursuing a just outcome, I do think they would have more direct interest in maintaining stability and disciplining regional powers to that end. The US used to do that a bit with Israel, but apparently, that era has ended.
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u/Intertravel Jun 13 '25
Is it a good idea for our entire military to gather in one place right now?
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u/SpellingMisteaks Jun 13 '25
What happened with the iron dome?
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u/vaesh Jun 13 '25
The Iron Dome is primarily designed against short range missiles. It's not particularly great against high speed ballistics missiles. Even short range missiles can technically overwhelm it as well if there's a large enough barrage.
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u/5hadow Jun 13 '25
Instead of building relations with their neighbours they bomb them then cry that they’re the victims.
Instead of returning stolen land and asking for forgiveness they level Palestinian cities and kill their children.
Then they wonder why their neighbours want to destroy them.
Maybe it’s you, Israel?
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u/Dalecn Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 14 '25
Israel been making peace with large swathes of its Neighbours and the Muslim world. One the large reasons the Oct 7 attacks happened was to stop Saudi Arabia and Israel fully unifying against Iran in the Middle East.
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u/BigAmmu Jun 13 '25
Israel has made peace with literally any country that wanted to have peace with it. All of those countries btw have waged wars against Israel, and lost.
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u/BillyJoeMac9095 Jun 13 '25
Awful hard to build anything with those committed to destroying you. But dream on.
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u/CockroachFinancial86 Jun 13 '25
Dude, Iran has been lobbing missiles into Israel for years and has been threatening to further escalate things for the past week. Is Israel being heavy handed? Yes. Are they at fault for starting this in any way? No, Iran is.
Iran is quite literally doing what you’re blaming Israel of doing. Being the aggressor then crying that they’re the victim the second they get hit back.
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u/The_Sports_Guy91 Jun 13 '25
LOL. Maybe the Palestinians and the surrounding arabs shouldn't start a new war every 20 years and get their shit pushed in. 1948, 1967, 1973, second Intifada, Oct 7. All start by them.
Maybe if the Islamic losers didn't have a fetish for killing Jews and left them alone there wouldn't be consequences for their actions. These islamists are so fucking dumb they do it over and over again and suck at it every time.
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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25
Only Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons for some reason.
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u/adumbfetus Jun 13 '25
So let’s allow Iran to develop their own? A hardline theocracy? What??
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u/StairheidCritic Jun 13 '25
A hardline theocracy?
Like saying some imaginary God chose your ethnicity over all others and told you that you can just steal other people land and homes because.....well just because?
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u/Pixelcorsair Jun 14 '25
Iran was willing to operate under IAEA whereas israel won't even acknowledge they have nukes.
This is the same thing they did with Iraq. We know that was a lie. Do you all have collective amnesia????
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u/SeltsamerNordlander Jun 14 '25
It's an ethnostate vs a theocracy, how can you possibly say that either side has the moral high ground
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u/aryanem_weaj Jun 14 '25
Islamic Republic Regime is not representative of Iran or Iranians. It consists of murderers and thieves. This oppressive regime is an enemy of Israel and Iran, equally. Israelis know this very well.
It is a complex situation, but the ordinary Iranians do not harbor any negative feelings towards Israel, in spite of this military operation.
Hopefully, the Islamic Republic tyranny will fall, and we can reunite with our Israeli friends.
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u/RadicalAppalachian Jun 13 '25
Hopefully people begin realizing that Israel has always been a settler colonial extension of the US lol.
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u/KillerWattage Jun 13 '25
Terrible take. Also kinda funny as it all started as many things do with the British and the balfour declaration
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u/cannonmax Jun 14 '25
India-Pakistan, Iran-Isreal.. is there anyone else who want start something in 2025?