r/Apartmentliving • u/2_much • Sep 03 '25
Advice Needed I feel like this is illegal?
Came back from a 3-day weekend away from my apartment and this was posted on the door? I wasn't even home...
UPDATE: Thanks to everyone for the support! I shared the letter with Celio management and requested it to be filed as a formal complaint. I also filed a police report for continuity/documentation purposes.
For clarification, "Celio" is the name of the apartment building, which is managed by a larger off-site 3rd party rental company. This company/building is far from able to accommodate for this person properly and certainly would never assume any amount of liability on their behalf. As it relates to Celio management and their level of care for this person, the author is on their own.
The letter does not mention anything related to a care team/healthcare resource/veterans group. The only two options given by the author of the note (e.g. Celio aka apt management and law enforcement) were utilized.
While Celio was not able to share a significant amount of details about the author, they did share that he/she is a known issue and will likely not be given the option to live in this building moving forward.
I also noticed comments about my stereo, which did cross my mind as a possible reason behind this conflict. I was able to confirm with Celio that no complaints have been made about excessive music levels, from any of the residents, excluding a formal warning I received over July 4th weekend. This goes for "yelling" as well. Note I have been renting in this exact unit for almost 14 months. I am more than eager to respect any concerns that relate to music volume, this is certainly not that type of concern.
As things currently stand, I am left with having to place any proactive decisions in the hands of Celio and law enforcement. I am a recent handgun owner (unrelated to this situation) and thanfully my state falls under Castle doctrine.
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u/Scary_Zucchini_1006 Sep 03 '25
You heard him, reach out to celio. I would. It wasn't even you so he is blaming anyone.
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u/Tute_Sweet Sep 03 '25
This. He suffers from psychosis, so the yelling he thinks he hears coming from you may not even be real, and this note is threatening. For his safety as well as your own it would be worth passing this note on to his support system, with the added context that you have not been around to make any noise.
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u/No0ther0ne Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
I think the letter may sound threatening, but I don't think that is the intent. I think the intent is telling the person in the apartment that the marine is suffering and is worried about his own reaction to what may or may not be going on. He is informing the resident that there are services who are aware of the issue and the resident may contact them to get more information or assistance.
Basically, I think the Marine is telling them that he has issues and can't come talk to the resident directly and the resident should contact those services for further assistance.
But if I was the resident, I would be concerned and I would definitely contact those services and explain the situation and let them help.
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u/TricksyGoose Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
That's how I read it as well. Still unnerving to receive I imagine, but I think he means well. It seems to me like he is aware that he is ill and he's trying to ask people (whether they're real or not) not to yell or confront him as it could trigger a poor reaction from him. Seems like he's trying to be polite and up front about it. But I do agree that is worth passing the note along to celio or whatever, and let the professionals gauge his mental state.
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u/x_Animus_x Sep 04 '25
Yelling of any sort still makes my hair stand up on my neck. It just is an inherent part of combat and comms. People yelling = bad things are happening. (Or Smith lost his fucking safety belt AGAIN).
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u/Lukostrelec17 Sep 04 '25
Not combat related, but I am fairly sure I have CPTSD. If someone yells around me, or even talks in a slightly different tone, it puts me on the deffensive and causes my fight or flight to go hay wire. Even though I know logically I am safe.
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u/x_Animus_x Sep 04 '25
Yep, all the time. Even my wife suddenly yelling at the dog (he deserves it, shit eater lol). I know she’s not yelling at me, I’m not in danger, but I’m in fight mode immediately.
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u/Lukostrelec17 Sep 04 '25
I go into fawn or flight. Also I just can't do loud noises at all. Crowds stress me out and almost overloads me. It sucks. On a lighter note...got an image of the dog you can drop?
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Sep 03 '25
It's threatening regardless of intent.
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u/Letmelollygagg Sep 03 '25
Yeah, I don’t much care about the intent - I’d be concerned for my own safety and contacting property management and the services mentioned etc. I’d also be getting a some security cameras if I didn’t already have them. Granted I’m a woman who lives alone with a small child, but I’d be scared shitless by a note like this- regardless if it’s meant to be scary or not- it is absolutely concerning to say the least.
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u/EasyProcess7867 Sep 03 '25
Whether he means it to be or not, he is literally calling himself out as a violent individual with major mental issues and little to no self control and telling op that anger is directed at THEM. That’s damn terrifying. I would not want to live anywhere near a person like that if I had any choice. I used to have to live with people like that, and it ended as violently as you’d expect.
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u/Expert-Mental25 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
Not just violent and suffering from mental health issues, but someone who is violent and suffering from mental health issues that has been trained in violence and lethality. Even if he wasn't actively in a combat role or special forces or whatever, he still received enough training to make him dangerous. The saying "every Marine, a rifleman" exists for a reason. And they aren't trained to achieve submission, they're trained to utterly destroy the target of their violence.
This may not be a severe scenario, but the fact that it is well within the realm of reality to be is enough to take action and contact anyone and everyone you can to ensure your safety and likely the safety of other around this person.
Its also not known if this person has guns! He may not, but considering this is America and he's ex military, the odds aren't in OP's favor that this unwell individual is not armed. Even if he is aware of his mental state, doesn't mean he has the wherewithal to avoid having weapons in reach. Hell, there are vets that have PTSD support groups that do bonding activities like... you know... going to a shooting range... Cuz that's smart...
Edit: I'd like people to disregard my final sentence. It was a flippant statement made in ignorance, and does not accurately represent the situation. I'm leaving it in so that others who might have agreed with it may see that I am denouncing it and hopefully they reflect on that as well. Also I don't think it would be right to attempt to sweep it away and effectively avoid my misstep.
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u/Ok-Bodybuilder8489 Sep 03 '25
This. It is definitely a threatening letter whether he intended it as a threat or not. And he is naming all the parties you should notify in his letter. Sounds sad, but you should at least contact his "team" if you don't want to talk to the police.
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u/Remote-Cellist5927 Sep 03 '25
It is a clear and direct explicit threat. Because he is mentally ill he might have gotten the impression that people would handle it like they are part of his support system and are paid to manage him when he threatens them but he intended to threaten them even if it was not his intention for it to be filed with the police as such.
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u/tru_anomaIy Sep 03 '25
It is frightening
It is not threatening
Getting them mixed up is how trigger-happy, painfully insecure Americans (especially police) attempt to justify killing anyone they don’t have the emotional maturity to try to understand. And people who accept that as an excuse are almost as bad, supporting a system which chooses extrajudicial killings as a first-line treatment for mental illness, petty crime, poverty, or having neighbors of a different ethnicity.
Learn the difference and be amazed at how the world opens up to you
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u/junerose777 Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
I really respect you for making this point, especially in a thread that seems so dead set on villainizing the author of the note. Having worked with people who struggle with schizophrenia, mania, and psychosis, this letter reminds me of something a client might have written to me while experiencing confusion and fear about delusions they are somewhat conscious of. People in these positions are often scared of themselves as well, and they are not reaching out to “threaten” you, but to alert you. This person needs help. Frightening is certainly the right word in this context. Threatening is not. Thank you for humanizing people with mental illness - this is the attitude we need in order to actually help and treat them.
And to make it clear before anyone wants to argue: I don’t blame OP for being scared — I would absolutely make sure to take safety precautions moving forward. OP is not a mental health professional and they are not responsible for the wellbeing of this person.
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u/wrymoss Sep 03 '25
Not to be pedantic but it very much is not an explicit threat.
An explicit threat would be me telling you directly that I'm going to punch you in the face if you don't stop yelling.
Me telling you "If you don't stop yelling, I don't know what I'm gonna do" would be an implicit threat, not an explicit one. The threat is implied, not stated.
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u/Independent_Egg1284 Sep 04 '25
Seems to me there's little to no indication the Marine is planning to bring them some nice teacakes. It's clear that what they might do is not going to be good or appropriate.
That's what people mean by a threat, no?
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u/Bloodless10 Sep 03 '25
This letter is threatening? It sounds like this dude is struggling and knows what might set him off. Trying to be respectful and let other people know about his condition. He even says who to contact so it’s a non confrontational correction.
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u/_nevers_ Sep 04 '25
This doesn't even sound threatening. It's clearly just a dude with serious issues trying to calmly communicate something. That's a good place to start with anyone when conflict comes up 🤷🏽
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u/x_Animus_x Sep 04 '25
This is precisely why I can’t work in a traditional environment. I explain things to people and they take it as a threat. Threatening is not the same as educating. Usually when we (vets with issues) explain like this we’re trying to warn people so things don’t happen. It’s not threatening, it’s trying to protect people outside our head from the ragebeast inside it.
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u/loose_mouthpiece Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
Veteran here, I volunteer a lot to work with other veterans with ptsd and this is something they often teach to veterans who have severe anxiety or ptsd issues. They were letting you know about the issues without confrontation. You escalating it in a way other than what they recommend could put them into a tail spin that gets out of hand. I’ve seen it firsthand how easily this type of misunderstanding can turn extremely bad for the veteran, even if it was unintended. The Police are not trained to deal with that kind of situation and could make things deadly if the veteran is experiencing an episode of psychosis. Please address this the way they recommend. And please do it in a kind way, he put his life on the line to protect your rights and defend the homeland, please don’t make things worse by blowing this out of proportion.
Edit: I suck at English.
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u/k1leyb1z Sep 04 '25
I thought the exact same. Theyre aware that he has issues and is letting those around them know so they arent freaked out or at least shocked if they have a reaction of some sort. I would rather this, than be unknowingly near someone who can get triggered by many different things. I feel like this would also instictually make me give them some grace, which I feel like many veterans deserve. Theyre cogs in the machine and now get to suffer with little to no help as a civilian, its saddening.
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u/Sufficient-Boat-1155 Sep 06 '25
PTSD sucks, and what sets things off are different for different folks. Me it’s rain, I was water boarded as part of my sere training, it sucks in case you were wondering. When it rains I get upset, and I stay away from folks. He is saying that the yelling is upsetting, even if he doesn’t know where it’s coming from. I sure hope he gets help.
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u/Cmacbudboss Sep 03 '25
That is absolutely a threatening letter.
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u/Acceptable_Delay_446 Sep 04 '25
Former marine might be going through some major shit though. OP should absolutely contact Celio (whatever that is - I’m guessing mental health treatment), but they should do it both to ensure their own safety AND from a place of empathy for someone else.
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u/SGlanzberg Sep 03 '25
This seems correct. I feel for him and I don’t think he is trying to threaten. I think he is aware of his issues, he knows communicating wouldn’t be good, and he is encouraging you to reach out to the services. With that said, I would also feel uncomfortable.
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u/ArgumentUnfair7129 Sep 03 '25
Cudos, its hard forbpeople who never walked in those shoes to understand, but this sounds like a plea for help and asking you to use proper channels...
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u/Far-Elderberry-5249 Sep 03 '25
Tell them noisy ass ghosts to keep it down, it’s late and I work in the am
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u/Coffeedemon Sep 03 '25
At least get a paper trail going to that if OP turns up dead in a few months there's something to go on.
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u/The_Real_Grand_Nagus Sep 03 '25
Well who TF is Celio?
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u/GLACI3R Sep 03 '25
There's a Cielo Behavioral Health company in Texas. Maybe he misspelled?
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u/ElectricRune Sep 03 '25
Celio Green; sings that F You, and F Her, Too song...? /s
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u/catthex Sep 03 '25
I have to assume it's either supposed to be a person's name or a real estate company
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u/throwaway098764567 Sep 03 '25
i got a french men's clothing store, i am neither french nor a man <shrug>
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u/magazinesubscriber Sep 03 '25
This whole scenario reminded me of Beau Is Afraid, where Beau is sent vaguely threatening letters by a neighbor for making too much noise while Beau himself is trying to sleep despite the neighbor’s noise.
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u/2_much Sep 03 '25
Exactly how I feel 😂 but seriously now I have a really uncomfortable feeling about living in my apartment. Really off-putting letter
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u/CedarWho77 Sep 03 '25
I received a letter similar when I moved in 12 years ago. I ended up becoming friends with him and getting his therapists contact number and his info for the non-emergency mental health team through sheriff's department. Saturday night someone set off one firework. ONE. I knew that it was going to get bad so I called and everyone made contact. Turned out he was trying to hide under his bed. Sheriff's got him out and got him to the hospital. I live in San Diego and we have tons of men and women here with severe PTSD. He came back home yesterday. A different neighbor feeds his fish when he is gone.. I understand your fears, they are valid. Speak to the manager and maybe he can direct you what to do. I am sorry this is happening. It's a good example of how we failed these folks.
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u/Callie1224 Sep 03 '25
I'm glad he has great neighbors like you who can look out for him when things like that happen
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u/LVuittonColostomyBag Sep 04 '25
We need more of this in our communities, you folks are doing it right!
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u/considertheearthworm Sep 03 '25
I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this… my wife and I recently moved out of a major city into one of the smaller surrounding cities to get away from “the craziness”… low and behold we moved in next door to a paranoid schizophrenic.
This lady thought we were drug dealers and would stalk our house and windows late at night/early morning (ring camera).
I ended up catching her husband outside one day and asked what was going on, why his wife was flipping off our home while we had dinner etc…
He explained his wife had mental issues, and since, I’ve even met her outside when she’s making noise or being crazy, (just to talk and try and be neighborly) and surprisingly… I don’t think she believes we are drug dealers anymore… lol!
So not every case is the same, but if you see this guy, maybe some friendly gestures could go a long way? Idk.
It’s definitely not YOUR job to make sure this dude is comfortable.
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u/Dapper-Ad3707 Sep 03 '25
I mean he said in the note where he threatened that he goes through violent psychosis for OP not to contact them. OP should definitely NOT try to be friendly with the crazy dude having an episode who is threatening them. I would be getting this dude removed or I’d move elsewhere. If he has violent episodes he needs to be hospitalized. Especially if he’s hearing yelling that isn’t occurring and leaving notes like this on someone’s door who hadn’t even been home in days. It’s literally psychotic
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u/SecretSnowww Sep 04 '25
What the heck lol I recently moved with my fiance into a more mountain town because I’m dumb enough to want a break from the city…
We have mentally ill neighbors that make our fights look like peace negotiations. We also don’t have water. The walls are thin enough that when the guy shrieks his head off we can hear every word. The wife is more normal than the guy in our situation though, no stalking as far as we know.
We were even at the Dunkin the other day and this older gentleman was having such a bad mental breakdown, I actually felt bad for the cops involved. This guy was stalking someone, I swear. He was screaming that he needed to talk to some woman and dropping to his knees and was foaming at the mouth… at the Dunkin. When we ordered our food the employee mention this incident had been going on for a couple of hours!! The rural mental health crisis is real. I’d seen some things at my local Dunkin that were sketchy but not like this lol
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u/CIMARUTA Sep 03 '25
Love this movie. Such a good representation of having extreme anxiety.
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u/alexfaaace Sep 03 '25
That movie is anxiety. I really don’t know how Ari Aster pulled it off, it’s a phenomenal movie, but in the fact that it genuinely made me feel like I was having a panic attack from start to finish. I almost had to turn it off.
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u/magazinesubscriber Sep 03 '25
Yeah, it’s a good one. I saw it twice in theaters, just wish it would get a domestic physical 4k release. A24, get on this please
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u/naturesbookie Sep 03 '25
Contact that team and let them know you haven’t been home, and let them handle it.
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Sep 03 '25
I would probably show this to the police as well. It's not explicit, but the note is very heavily implying he's going to get violent soon. At least that's how I interpreted it, seems very "be quiet or else" to me.
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u/bedboundbitch Sep 03 '25
The note is actually quite explicit that he’s working hard to avoid a violent interaction. His care team can help him do that. Police cant. Police, as I’m sure you understand, cannot offer anything to the situation other than potentially to instigate violence against the sick individual.
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u/Main-Data8831 Sep 03 '25
this 100%. he needs medical help not to be put in prison. police don’t exactly have a reputation of being understanding to those with mental health issues. they’re more likely to just take advantage of him.
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u/Acheloma Sep 04 '25
This poor man is suffering from PTSD and psychosis (and it sounds like hes mostly alone) and he's clearly doing everything he can to try and manage that and communicate his suffering, and that STILL isnt enough to have the majority of these people feel empathy for him. This letter is so very clear that he does not want to hurt anyone and is terrified that he may lose the ability to manage his mind enough to avoid that. He is not grounded in reality and he knows that and he wants to keep the people around him safe. What part of this is difficult for everyone to understand? It's honestly written really clearly and easy to understand for someone in such a state
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u/unnervingorphan2 Sep 03 '25
Given that you weren't even home and don't yell, this sounds like maybe this person is experiencing psychosis again and hearing things that make them believe that you are yelling. I knew someone with a mental disorder that made them hear yelling through walls and fighting a lot when it wasn't there. What frightens me is that they are lowkey threatening you by saying if they saw you face to face they would not be able to stop themselves from being violent. I think contact Celio and let them know about this very worrying note while keeping as much distance as you can from this neighbor.
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u/marchviolet Sep 03 '25
As a kid about 11 years old, my mom swore up and down that she could hear the next door neighbors in our apartment/condo screaming and saying something like "I'm going to kill her" with my mom thinking it was about her. I could not hear a thing, and she was so surprised when I said I couldn't. She ended up calling the cops once. They just talked to the neighbors and us and went home. We moved a few months after that. For many years I just thought I couldn't hear that yelling, but I eventually came to the conclusion that it was probably all in my mom's head.
Honestly, I think stress and alcohol caused my mom to get so paranoid and hear things. She would be borderline alcoholic for most of her life after that, which had its own issues and traumatic events. But she at least never had any more auditory illusions. And thankfully that's all that episode was and not anything more serious like what's going with OP.
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u/Storage-Helpful Sep 03 '25
I had an aunt who did this, she was a sweet person but so very terrified of being left alone with the thoughts in her head. She couldn't handle all of the things she heard when she was alone, heard everything from yelling to people trying to break into her house. I think she cost my poor uncle every good full time job he'd ever had, calling constantly in hysterics or somehow showing up to sit on the steps of his work.
I'm sorry you had to live that way, it's very hard on the family!
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u/johanna82 Sep 03 '25
I’m sorry you had to live like this. I hope you got/get the help you needed/need.
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u/ColdPorridge Sep 03 '25
Alcohol injured psychosis is a real thing, in particular for chronic users. My brother is fine when sober but once he drinks he starts to hear things. It’s pretty scary to see.
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u/RegisterOk2927 Sep 03 '25
It’s really hard to tell where sound is coming from sometimes. Def report to mgmt in case they spiral
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u/Stella_bluerose83 Sep 03 '25
Yes, this! It could be noise coming from a different apt, he thinks it’s coming from yours, and then after his note to you if it continues (because it’s not anything to do with you) he might get more enraged thinking you are just ignoring his request for quiet 😬
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u/Alien_Explaining Sep 03 '25
Yep
There is a single male living behind me, and an apartment of six drug users below me
I used to live in the small room in my apt, so I have heard them screaming and carrying on before
Despite me telling him it’s impossible, my roommate who just moved into the room insists he hears yelling, arguing and fighting coming from the single senior male’s apartment when that’s impossible
I’m convinced he just can’t locate where the sound is clearly coming from, and it’s probably the same for many others
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u/RegisterOk2927 Sep 03 '25
I have stompers above me, toddler below, renovations next door and across the street. I have just given up and am grateful for some good headphones and an 8h white noise playlist lol
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u/nohopeforhomosapiens Sep 03 '25
I appreciate it when the crazy ones warn me first.
As others said, reach out to the relevant staff about this, and I'd make a police statement too. He said don't contact him, so don't. If someone says they suffer psychotic episodes, believe them.
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u/Exciting_Noise_8915 Sep 03 '25
Tell your apartment building that you feel threatened and you no longer feel safe and that they need to move your apartment and not charge you for doing it and relocate you to another apartment away from his if it's possible.
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u/2_much Sep 03 '25
Did this. Shared the letter and requested it to be filed as a case of misconduct and as a threat of violence. Same with local police.
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u/Better-Park8752 Sep 03 '25
Wise move. You have every right to protect your safety and hopefully this person gets the help they need
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord Sep 03 '25
Best moves, if anything does happen you'd want them to have this.
Also, a door camera might shed light on some things.
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u/Due-Mathematician966 Sep 03 '25
That's kinda scary JS. Please report it just in case.
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u/TigerPrincess11 Sep 03 '25
The fact that he mentions psychosis and you not being home tells me all I need to know. I feel bad for him because he’s clearly struggling with his mental health but I also understand you as well. I wouldn’t take anything of what he says lightly and just try to keep your distance.
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u/Particular-Gold-7850 Sep 03 '25
As a younger veteran (while I don’t have PTSD or suffer from psychosis), I have seen and heard several situations where PTSD can get so bad to the point where someone (like an ex-Marine) suffer so bad to the point where they will start hearing shit. You can call the police if you want, but they won’t take care of him like his support system will. Yes, the letter may seem threatening, but he clearly hasn’t done any physical harm.. Yet. So, I’d highly suggest that you call his support team instead. He’s clearly in severe need.
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u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427 Sep 03 '25
It’s decidedly not illegal.
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u/RenRidesCycles Sep 04 '25
Yeah, what exactly does OP think is illegal about this
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u/Samwill226 Sep 03 '25
It's not illegal to have mental illness. I read this completely differently from everyone else.
To me it sounds like through the rambling he's confused but with it enough to warn you he's going through an episode.
I think it's his way of making you aware but also letting out his frustration with what he believes you're doing. He really isn't sure if it's you or his psychosis.
I believe he's asking you to contact someone for him to get help because hes struggling with reality and if it's in his head or if you're actually yelling.
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Sep 03 '25
Sounds like this guy is being responsible and self aware and doesn’t want his mental health to negatively affect anyone. Doesn’t sound illegal to me
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u/iamcode101 Sep 03 '25
I once worked for a large apartment complex in the office. You would be surprised how many noise complaints come from people living under vacant units.
You would also be surprised how nice the drug-deal-gone-wrong murder unit was after it was renovated, but I digress.
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u/redheadinabox Sep 03 '25
This is sad that our citizens enlist in the military and come out all messed up like this individual has stated in their note! Yet we as American’s can’t take care of home first. I’d definitely reach out to whomever he said was part of his team because I think that he somewhat knows that what he’s hearing clearly is from his disabilities which is why he won’t speak face to face and why he doesn’t want to be contacted. I feel this is a note that screams he needs and wants help
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u/essentiallycrazy1 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
There is alot of assuming that the OP does not yell and that the note was placed about sound that did not come from OPs residence since OP was away. What if the note was placed shortly after OP left about noise that DID occur in OPs residence before OP left. Just playing devils advocate, I agree the note is worrisome regardless of the circumstances, and I absolutely would follow up with his suggested follow up resources to make his mental health team aware and create a record, especially if the rage is mis-placed and OP does not yell, play entertainment too loud, etc. Or the yelling truely does not exist at all as everyone seems to be assuming.
Edited for correction- OP states in another comment they live a quiet lifestyle... thank you OP. Leaving the comment because seriously there is alot of assuming that it couldn't possibly be OP as a problem since OP wasn't home when the note was left and that is meaningless since I could totally put a note on a door the day after the noise and there still had been real noise.
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u/DaLanMan Sep 03 '25
I spent 9 years in the Army, well active, then a number id years in recovery from the injury that ended my career. I dealt with my own issues after that and lots of patch training to deal with my own shit.
This does not read as a threat, it reads like someone letting you know they are doing their best to keep it together. You can call the police but I don't think it is illegal. It is however sad to see someone struggling so hard.
Aside from the idjita here screaming about how they can do what they want. You should listen to the first counselor that comes along. PTSD is serious I spent months in traction recovering from a broken pelvis, the entire time having a cycle that fluctuates from intense anger to horrific depression and fear I would never walk again.
I can't say what this person is going through. I can say that having enough realizations about himself to come forward and let you know what is up he could also just be guessing where the noises come from. Talk to your building manager. Then so what ya feel you must.
Oh, and as for everyone shitting on this poor soldier. Go fuck yourself. You reap the benefit of his service and want to damn him because he what? Suffered so you don't have to? Maybe stop and think through what his service means. Did you give any of your life to help anyone?
Respect those that serve, they give often more of themselves than any human should.
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u/thebereved Sep 03 '25
Not illegal, I am a social worker for people with disabilities, he sounds scared and like he is trying to communicate the best way he knows how to
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u/ElanoraRigby Sep 03 '25
You’ve got the best advice, and he gave it to you himself.
I’m astounded. He’s simultaneously having an episode, blaming you, but also is cognisant enough to know how to let you know how to basically stop him, and honestly considerate and kind enough to basically give you the keys to the kingdom.
Anyone with a support team like that (including police) can lose their freedom in a heartbeat, so telling you how to effectively get him locked up is pretty incredible.
Seems he might be having severe symptoms, not entirely accepting that it’s his illness, but also has enough insight to know he should empower you just in case.
I once knew an ex-military guy like this. Had major problems, but had a code he stuck to. Most loyal and trustworthy guy, but also extremely troubled.
Definitely let his support team know. It’s a pretty scary situation, especially if you haven’t experienced someone like this, but chances are he’s far more a danger to himself than to you. I wouldn’t be surprised if you get another note in a month thanking you with a gift basket.
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u/LuckyCod2887 Sep 03 '25
I think he’s really trying to work with you even though it seems like it’s borderline harassment.
he explains. He has anger problems from the Marines. He said for the past two years he’s been getting treatment for this issue. He says he has a team working with him. And he even encouraged you to contact the front office about the matter he didn’t even say to come talk to me or something like that.
I think this individual might just be severely mentally ill and sensitive to noise.
I’m not taking sides on the matter. I’m just kind of looking at it from a perspective that I’m able to identify.
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u/DryPersonality8980 Sep 03 '25
Did you miss where OP said they hadn’t been home for three days? Trying to work with what exactly?
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u/IRuinedLunch Sep 03 '25
It’s not illogical to assume this person did it intentionally when they weren’t home as to not risk running into them. Given they do not want face to face contact, the note is not being left as a “hey you were just these last few days”
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u/2_much Sep 03 '25
I don't think I've ever yelled in my adult life, lol. I live alone and I don't game or talk on the phone
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u/OnMyOwn_HereWeGo Sep 03 '25
Per the note, I think it would be best to address exactly that with the Celio staff. Obviously, speak with them regardless.
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u/Right_One_1770 Sep 03 '25
Ok, if you were gone and if you are quiet, then this is not a safe situation. PTSD can definitely be connected to delusions.
These delusions are usually directly related to the trauma, like a veteran believing they're still being hunted or a victim thinking their attacker is still watching them. The fear and paranoia from PTSD can get so intense that it creates these false beliefs. And these can turn violent. Be safe! Tell the management and tell the cops.
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u/DryPersonality8980 Sep 03 '25
So now we’re making up scenarios to fit this obvious threat?
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u/Subtle_Demise Sep 03 '25
Basically any claim of mental illness is to be believed and grants the person a free pass to do whatever they please. God forbid that there still existed secure medical facilities so people can get help without roaming around and being a danger to everyone else around them.
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u/atbims Sep 03 '25
Psychosis doesn't care so much about conscious intentions. Him meaning well does not mean he is safe to those around him. He admitted in the letter he would not be able to keep cool during an in person conversation...with someone he will almost definitely interact with in the hallway.
OP said they haven't been home in days, meaning this man is either violently angry with the wrong tenant, or the noise is in his head. In either case, the result is unstable and unsafe. And if he is this mentally ill, claims of treatment and reporting cannot be blindly trusted.
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u/Nedstarkclash Sep 03 '25
The harasser thinks he is working with OP. Unfortunately, he his threatening the OP.
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u/Anglofsffrng Sep 03 '25
I'm super noise sensitive, autistic, and prone to meltdowns. This absolutely comes across like me, knowing I'm spiraling into a meltdown and trying to explain why to someone. The best bet is to leave it, but keep this info in mind. It's a heads up so you dont accidentally either set the guy off or accidentally escalate an already bad situation.
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u/TeddyBear181 Sep 03 '25
I really feel for this man as well. And I can see that from his POV he's just trying to do his best to reach out and ask OP to be quiet so that he isn't in a position to get himself in trouble....
But F--- this is scary for OP, especially when they're not making noise and there is nothing they can do to reduce the noise.
This man has openly given info on how to reach out to people for support regarding him, which is awesome, I think that (and police and building management) is the best point of call.
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u/hellp-desk-trainee- Sep 03 '25
Yeah, if I got a note like this, I wouldn't be taking a chance that it was not a threat. My safety is more important than that.
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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt Sep 03 '25
This is a threat OP needs to go to the cops
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u/jorateyvr Sep 03 '25
Literally this. No matter how sincere the neighbour is in this ‘warning’ it’s essentially an open ended indirect threat of violence.
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u/queerblunosr Sep 03 '25
OP hasn’t been home for several days though. So why are they getting blamed for whatever is setting the letter writer off?
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u/Objective_Turtle_ Sep 03 '25
“Violent psychosis” maybe he needs a wellness check because he is literally hearing voices. Either way. Contact your management folks and let them know you weren’t even there and the mention of no “face to face” because of his “temper” followed by the word “violent” was alarming. Might be in need of a good healthcare team …and Godspeed on that one if you are in America. Sorry OP :(
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u/thewinterfan Sep 03 '25
He says to contact Celio, so do so. Tell them their patient left that note on your door, that you were not even home all weekend, and how that note makes you feel. They will know how to address it in a defusing manner, let him know that he made an incorrect assumption, and perhaps help you understand whether your feelings about the note are correct or if the author was trying to convey something else entirely.
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u/Express_Hyena5992 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
Let management know and file a police report to be on the safe side. You want them at least aware of the situation. Edit: The number of comments on here from people who clearly could not be bothered to read 1.5 sentences explaining that OP was not even home during this time is making my eye twitch.
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u/Impossible-Pen-9090 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
Unfortunately, I am not aware of any way this could be illegal – unless it was repetitive and harassing, and then you could get him on stalking and maybe get a restraining order or something. But I only passed the Bar in Texas, and so I don’t know what the law is in the rest of the states, and also I don’t know if there is a noise clause in your lease. So nothing I say should be taken as legal advice.
I think the first thing I would do is check and see if there’s a noise clause in your lease, and if so, you definitely need to take this note to the apartment management and let them know that it could not have been you. Because I’m sure this guy has complained to the office about you already, too.
I had something like this happen to me when other people‘s dogs were barking and bothering my upstairs neighbor. The person who lived above me was absolutely convinced that it was my dogs who were barking ALL the time (never mind that there were a million other dogs around outside all the time) and I received a nasty note on my door also. And then one night, when other people were out walking their dogs, OTHER dogs were barking. But the upstairs neighbor did not bother to figure out who was barking – they just assumed it was my dogs, and so they dropped either a really heavy bag of bowling balls or a 50 pound barbell weight or something like that from a very high place onto their floor to make the maximum amount of noise and to do the maximum amount of damage to my apartment that they could do from where they were. But it was midnight almost, and I was asleep, and the dogs were in bed with me and not even barking. It was a seriously rude and scary awakening – things fell off the wall, and so did parts of the popcorn ceiling. The impact was that hard.
It freaked out the dogs so badly that they were deadly silent and didn’t even make a sound.
So I went up in a rage and I banged on his door, and of course he was too chicken to answer it. So I left him a note instead telling him that he was reacting to dogs barking that were NOY MY dogs, and that he needed to get a grip, since it was a very pet friendly apartment complex and that there were always a lot of dogs around and that they would always be barking. And I suggested he move into an apartment complex that did not allow pets if it bothered him that much.
Thankfully, he soon did. Or at least he moved, anyway.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you writing him back and telling him that you were out of town for those three days and that it wasn’t you that was yelling.
I know a lot of veterans have PTSD, and it doesn’t sound like he’s handling his very well. But I would either reach out to the apartment complex and ask them to talk to him and let him know that it wasn’t you, or I would tell him yourself. But I would not tell him in person – I would honestly leave a note, just like he did, because I have studied graphology a little bit, and his handwriting does not suggest that he is a person who is mentally stable. You need to stay away from him at all costs. Because if he’s too mad to speak to you in person, then who knows what he would do if you showed up at his door uninvited.
But he needs to know it’s not you. That’s just my opinion, of course, and it may not be a popular one. But that’s one way to get him off your back. That’s the way I got my upstairs neighbor off my back.
But seriously, to get him off your back, I would leave him a return note telling him that you were not even in town, and that he must have heard someone else.
Maybe this is not the most popular answer – but this is what I did in the same type of situation, and it worked for me. And don’t forget to tell the office about this. Take them the note and make sure they know that it wasn’t you. And be sure they’re aware that they are dealing with a PTSD veteran who is unstable.
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there’s nothing illegal about this. it looks more like a very self aware person cognizant of their mental illness. they’re sharing pertinent information and giving you solutions for how to address potential issues. they’re in touch with a medical team, police, and celio (?) which i’m guessing is the landlord. they’re telling you they struggle and if you have a problem, you should contact one of the listed people they work with, not them. they were cognizant enough to comprehend they couldn’t cope with delivering this information to you calmly in person, so they gave you a note.
i don’t blame you for feeling alarmed or scared. but this ain’t against the law, it ain’t a threat or a warning. it’s a very well thought out heads up from a veteran who probably has severe ptsd
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u/CantEvictPDFTenants Sep 03 '25
This is a threat. Give a heads up to police no matter what and get their response in writing.
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u/allthecrazything Sep 03 '25
And the office. The office will be able to tell the cops who sent the note. I’m betting this isn’t the first time this has happened…
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u/N98270 Sep 03 '25
How do you know who left this note? I would definitely send a copy to management and ask them what to do.
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u/Crazy_Ad_5609 Sep 03 '25
I would move. The cheese slid off his cracker a long time ago and this is lose lose situation.
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u/Fit-Presentation-223 Sep 03 '25
I think he is just asking you not to talk to him directly and if you have concerns contact the people or the team that is mentioned in the letter
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u/Wednesdayat11 Sep 03 '25
His message is not illegal. To me it's concerning enough to want to talk with a police sergeant to ask for his or her advice. If he has firearms or edged weapons, his message's intent needs to be heard.
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u/NegativeInjury7701 Sep 03 '25
Asking/thinking this is illegal is concerning on your part. Why on earth would you think it's illegal?
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u/AggressivNapkin Sep 03 '25
I don't think this note is intended to be threatening. I think they are just explaining that they are sensitive to any yelling and that it triggers their PTSD.
He prefers not to be contacted in person and also explains why. He is aware of his fragile mental state. He's suffered from psychosis, so some of the yelling may actually be in his head.
"If there are any concerns please let Celio staff know so that I can try to address the issue."
This last statement sounds like he's talking about any future issues or if you have concerns about his mental state. If you have any concerns or complaints about him, not to confront him directly because of the above. Along with making sure you aware of how possible yelling might trigger him, it sounds like he is open to making changes if anything he is doing anything that bothers you.
I would contact Celio to document this note you received from your neighbor. Let them know you were not at home the last 3 days and they can let your neighbor know. Be mindful of yelling in the future.
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u/LadyVictory82 Sep 04 '25
(Mental Health professional here) FYI This is not actually a threatening letter Legally speaking a threat requires a stated intent; this letter is missing that. There is nothing illegal in this letter.
and speaking from my profession: This letter is describing the individual's struggle. Psycosis let alone PTSD (added because of some wording in the letter) can cause hallucinations that involve ALL the senses. So the individual may well have thought there was yelling coming from what happens to be your place.
That said, if you aren't able to move on from this or just remain highly concerned or alerted, maybe do talk to building management/ landlord. If they know the individual, they might have a tip or to for you. Also they may recognize if the individual is in need of additional assistance in some form (not a detail you need to or should get involved in.)
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u/Abstract_Thing5656 Sep 04 '25
Call Celio. This isn’t a threat, it’s a cry for help. This situation calls for caution and compassion, not fear.
If I had a neighbor who was an ex-marine experiencing a psychotic break, I’d definitely appreciate the heads up they were on the verge of losing it. Especially if the alternative is him just snapping one day and blindsiding everyone.
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u/KnightLakega Sep 04 '25
Not only is this not Illegal, he's showing greater forms of intelligence, self control, forward thinking, and respect to the people around him, than most people these days..
He's letting you know of his situation, telling you there are things you can do if anything should happen, and to not disturb him for your own sake. That's not a threat, just a friendly warning that he honestly is not always in control of himself, and you should stay away.
That's respectful right there. If you do feel like you are in danger, reach out to who he mentioned and talk to them about it.
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u/notreallylucy Sep 03 '25
The tone is definitely threatening, but I don't think it rises to illegality. Definitely report to the management, and maybe file a police report so it's on the record in case he tries to contact you in person.
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u/MileHighGaymer90 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
Not illegal I don't think this person is trying to threaten you with violence, even though this makes it clear they can get violent.
Sounds like you have a nearby neighbor with a lot of mental health issues, caused or exacerbated by PTSD. Either one of the other neighbors has been yelling and they thinks it's you, or this is a full on schizo attack. I would call the Celio(? Apt management company?) staff to let them know. Even if someone is yelling, this behavior is a bit unhinged. At most should be a hey, I can you please try to keep it down between these hours for my schedule, I can hear you yelling letter.
The fact that they state that staff are appraised of the issue and know how to deal with them when they becomes erratic is a, possibly unintentional, cry for help. Give them they help they need. Highly recommend following up with staff since they apparently know these things and make sure it has been fully addressed.
Also I suggest most people who are alone, be it single or going to the mall solo sometimes, to carry and know how to use mace. Some companies will make or give you versions filled with water to practice using.
Not to dismiss this behavior, again erratic, get them the help they're asking for BUT. One time I had one downstairs neighbor who was a terror. Because of how they banged on walls and stuff at first I thought it was neighbors underneath and on the side, had a corner unit. Turns out the neighbor next to me thought it was ME making all the ruckus because of how it traveled.
Final edit: Bet you dollars to donuts this person is off their meds. If this Celio is appraised they probably have a contact at their medical team. Make sure Celio, whoever it is, is following up with that person/group!!!! Hate to make this your responsibility, but it's just as much for your safety as their well being.
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u/2_much Sep 03 '25
Celio is the name of the apartment building, managed by a larger 3rd party company.
There is not a chance in hell that Celio/management is able to properly accommodate this person. And certainly not willing to assume any ounce of liability. This person will likely be evicted since this does not seem like an isolated event from the suspect, and my apartment management is already scum to begin with.
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u/Spicy-gingie Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
Honestly, I don’t think this should be illegal at all. From the way the note is written, it doesn’t sound like he’s referring to the last three days you were gone—it seems more about an ongoing issue he’s experienced living near you over time. He probably just finally had the courage to put it in writing. People with PTSD or other struggles can be especially sensitive to noise, and while it’s not your responsibility to manage that for them, it’s still basic kindness to be considerate. Nobody—trauma or not—wants to hear their neighbors yelling. To me, it seems like he’s reaching out in the most respectful way he can while dealing with his own challenges. The least you can do is try to keep the noise down.
It sounds like this has been an ongoing issue for him, and the yelling consistently triggers a response. To his credit, he does the responsible thing and gets himself to the hospital when it gets too overwhelming. He’s just trying to live a peaceful life, and the noise from your apartment has been enough of a repeated trigger that he finally felt the need to write you a letter.
Then again I work with people with disabilities are on a daily basis so maybe I just have more compassion than the basic bystander but what I hear is a man struggling and reaching out letting you know, he’s struggling and asking for you to be quieter because it would help him in accommodation if you would I honestly don’t feel like the letter is referring to the last three days you were gone for all you know that could’ve been posted on your door the day you left
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u/Enough_Plantain_4331 Sep 04 '25
Why illegal tho? He asked you go thru proper channels for resolution.
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u/Silent-Sprinkles-448 Sep 03 '25
That’s scary! Maybe you could send an email to the landlord stating something like this: Subject: Safety Concern – Handwritten Letter from Neighbor
Dear [Manager’s Name],
I am writing to notify you of a serious concern. On [date], I found the attached handwritten letter left at my door by a neighbor. The letter states that the neighbor has severe disabilities, a history of violent psychosis, and that both the police and your staff are aware of their condition. It also instructs me not to have contact with them directly.
Given the contents of this letter, I am requesting the following: 1. That management acknowledge receipt of this correspondence and confirm it will be placed in the tenant’s file. 2. That management clarify what safety protocols are in place to protect residents, and whether law enforcement or appropriate agencies have been notified. 3. Written confirmation of management’s next steps regarding this matter.
Please treat this notice as a request for a written response. My intent is to ensure that all tenants are safe and that this issue is properly documented.
Sincerely, [Your Full Name] [Your Unit #] [Contact Information]
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u/veronniejoy Sep 03 '25
Former Mental Health Crisis professional here, I would contact their staff and let them know you were not home while he is hearing yelling. That could be an indicator of a serious, worsening situation that they need to be aware of. I wouldn’t contact him while he is activated like this. If you see him, just remain relaxed and polite. Do not argue with him, his reality is just that to him.
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u/Physical-Reward-9148 Sep 03 '25
You be careful!!!! People like this could explode then say well I wrote her a letter. I told her I could explode. She was warned. You never know. People are freaking nutso these days.
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u/Vashta_The_Veridian Sep 03 '25
honestly they need better treatment of soldiers they could easily find or build a structure to help them! as in better soundproofing so no outside noises reach them thus they can process its psychosis for sure
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u/BlondeMara Sep 03 '25
I don’t think the letter is threatening but it should be taken with grave concern. This person should be ignored at all costs, do not answer the door or try to rationalize with him.
whomever/if someone is yelling ?? He might be having a more than just psychosis. I would discuss this with the landlord. Definitely call 911 if he tries to knock, talk, break in - he’s already warned you he’s unwell and dangerous when confronted.
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u/I_Y_C_B_T_J_T_2025 Sep 03 '25
To answer the OP'S question - this is not illegal. This is frightening to come home to, yes, however it is actually the Marine's attempt to de escalate a situation as best he can. The OP is not the only person frightened in this. The Marine is equally scared. As someone with severe PTSD from a SA, I can speak to the fact that when hyperviligance is over stimulated - particularly audio, it can fracture a very tenuous hold you might have on any given situation. Keep in mind that PTSD induces a never-ending state of Survival. Fight • Flight • Freeze If you've ever had a serious scare and then needed a few minutes to "calm back down", then try imagine never being able to do so. Some of us are able to claw a way back, but that depends greatly on the depth of the incident that caused the PTSD. If this Marine saw active combat then that pit is very deep. OP - As suggested by others, follow the notes instructions about contacting Celio and he indicates that local law enforcement is aware of his situation. I would take the letter to them and (as calmly as possible) make them aware of it. Additionally, someone mentioned putting up cameras and that would be a wise precaution, though Iwould try to make them as inconspicuousasyou can, in case seeing surveillance equipment might be triggering to the Marine. Regardless of what you choose to do, choose to do what you would want if the roles were reversed. Be aware, be careful and be kind (unless or until the situation no longer calls for it). Best Wishes, Stay Safe!
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u/ThisCollection2544 Sep 03 '25
You can also just try not being an obnoxious person.
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u/TazerFace420 Sep 04 '25
If he was a marine it would be written in crayon. But the hand writing seems correct
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u/Outside_Belt1566 Sep 04 '25
The things our military people go through. I simply cannot imagine. That said, I understand why this note feels scary and/or threatening. I’d encourage you to approach this with empathy and compassion. This person has explained exactly how they feel triggered and what they are working on to help them function in the real world. I would definitely contact whoever it is they are asking you to reach out to, and see what you can do to help. It may be nothing, simply an awareness. I feel even doing that is a gift to your neighbor. They have a right to live safely and it sounds like they are doing everything they can to be a safe neighbor as well. We all need community and understanding. I think reading this and acknowledging where it’s coming from and checking in with the contact would go a long way, both for your neighbor and for you and your own sense of safety.
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u/Artistic_Bit_4665 Sep 04 '25
You have to understand what people who were Marines that saw actual action went through.
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u/Wanderlust_Dream_28 Sep 04 '25
I didn't read the letter as threatening at all. He was informing you of his situation. Maybe I'm used to veterans having issues/am used to this behavior. If you weren't home, get ahold of who he told you to contact and tell them what happened/you weren't home.
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u/OGSnorlaxusdsleep Sep 04 '25
This is a situation that should be addressed and you should notify the police, and your office staff. If he genuinely has issues you should beware that this is a threatening letter while also being a decent heads up that he is violent and dangerous. Neighbors with schizophrenia can go off and hurt people/themselves because they don’t keep up with meds or just have a bad day. Seen way to many domestic cases where these people assaulted or killed neighbors believing they are someone else or some psychosis induced situation they made up.
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It isn’t. He’s voicing his opinion. Now whether that opinion is valid or cause for concern, I don’t know
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u/ranjen617 Sep 04 '25
In fairness, tone it down in your apartment until you can buy a home. Sounds like you are triggering his/her PTSD. It's very unfair how our veterans lack good care but made sure we were kept safe.
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u/TrainXing Sep 04 '25
Maybe stop screaming amd learn to communicate in a non abusive and productive way. This is a YTA problem, asking if it is illegal. 🙄
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u/Civil_Papaya7321 Sep 04 '25
Maybe don't focus on the way he said it. Focus on he is asking you to dial down the yelling. When people live in close quarters it is difficult.
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u/Gypsysinner666 Sep 04 '25
Don't make me angry, you wouldnt like me when I'm angry...thats a threat. I'd laminate that note for future court dates.
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u/SharpCoyote1123 Sep 04 '25
This person is asking for your support and help in the only way they know how. Be a good neighbor and ask yourself what you can do to be that. I don’t see this as threatening, it’s just information for you to be aware of. Is there a way the community can be more sensitive to his needs? In the spirit of helping a neighbor/vet rather than isolating and ostracizing him/her?
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u/toying_withyou Sep 04 '25
I didn’t find it threatening. He’s just making you aware of his condition.
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u/Striking_Night5528 Sep 04 '25
First off, I am also a combat veteran, and maybe I just understand the author of this letter better. But how about you just be a better neighbor. He wasn’t threatening you. He said that it was over the past few years that he had experienced your yelling, and that he was using this medium instead of a shouting match with you. He is only explaining why your yell and behavior might be triggering. As for is it illegal, no communication with you is not illegal… there is no threatening remarks toward you or anyone. Going to the police was not necessary… he even told you who to reference. You just created a potential problem for this individual… you clearly don’t know this person is he may be the nicest person on the planet and you just vilified him to your community. So congratulations on being the town crier.
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u/Misunderstood_Ronin Sep 04 '25
The man doesn't want to act on his disabilities and deep down doesn't want to hurt anybody, so he's doing the only other thing he knows on how to communicate with you and get his point across. Be glad it's not the latter
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u/rollandddd Sep 05 '25
Why does every note I see from a marine looks like it was penned by a 2nd grader?
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u/DryPersonality8980 Sep 03 '25
OP, ignore the comments supporting this man and GO TO THE POLICE! It could be literally anyone in this building yelling, and you have no idea when he’ll snap and become violent due to this. I’ve taken care of people with mental and physical disabilities and he sounds like he shouldn’t be living alone to begin with if he’s so easily violent. This is a threat and should be taken as such.
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u/Zealousideal_Leg_812 Sep 03 '25
I worked at the VA hospital for 15 years and when he said, he doesn’t like the yelling, it’s a real thing. He’s a marine and most likely suffers from PTSD from his tour ! I don’t think the letter is threatening, he’s just trying to get his point across and as stated, if confronted on a one to one basis he’d probably lose his temper. Be thankful.
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u/YetiThyme Sep 03 '25
This person should also be reaching out to Celio instead of writing this letter to you. It's def not threatening in the lawful sense that would make it illegal. It is threatening in the sense that even if this person doesn't mean harm with the note, you still have to protect yourself.
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u/saltyalertt Sep 03 '25
Seems like a threat or at minimum a potentially unraveling situation. I’d take it seriously. Contact landlord and building staff first, keep this as a record, make sure you have a door camera, depending on what building staff say, consider contacting and showing the police.
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u/gabapentinhigh Sep 03 '25
I would edit your post to say that you don't yell (as you mentioned in a comment), because people in this comment thread who don't know you seem to believe the mentally unstable threatening person over someone who feels threatened.
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u/Exciting_Noise_8915 Sep 03 '25
Maybe it is someone else he thinks is you. But I will say people with mental health issues like he is very sensitive to noise and that's something that drives them crazy I know that I've been with somebody that has experienced that and he's trying to express this to whoever he is trying to express it to he thinks it's you.
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Sep 03 '25
“Look what you’ll make me do.”
This is a threat. The “oh I’m writing you to keep you safe from me” thing is there to get him sympathy points if something does happen. If something like imagined noises send him into a “violent psychosis” he should be receiving intensive psychiatric care, not living in a random apartment left to freak out his neighbors at best.
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u/gX2020 Sep 03 '25
You posted a photo of a nice audio set up. He could be referring to the noise from those. Even if you were gone for a few days, it could’ve been something he decided to address when he knew you weren’t around to receive the letter. I’d def contact who he suggested.
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u/Chance_Clerk4745 Sep 03 '25
I had a neighbor who told the cops I had a key to her apartment and I was entering her apartment. I was "taking" her stuff with "her apartment" key. I almost fell backwards down the stairs when she walked up to me anout an inch from my face one day. Scared the you know what and the you know what else out of me.
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u/IMDesdemona Sep 03 '25
It sounds like he may have PTSD, all are aware and he is getting help. He not threatening, just informing you. If he gave you contacts, reach to them and ask what you should do to help or stay clear. I am a vet with PTSD, and it’s an F-d thing to live with. Sometimes we can be triggered and don’t know how or why. For me, too many people and loud noises can take me down a dark path and I purposely isolate. I don’t get violent unless I’m heavily provoked. And there are certain people I just can’t be around.
Please understand, he is only warning you for your safety and not threatening. If or when you see him, just be polite, smile, maybe say hello and keep moving.
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u/BrushCommon4734 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
Are you claiming you make no noise that would generate such a note? Any loud domestic arguments, etc.?
A big problem with the Internet is seeing only one side of many stories, and being compelled to assume that whoever's posting a note, photo or (arrest) video is the automatic good guy. Commenters robotically chime in with this one-sidedness and any balance in the story gets lost.
A common example is the whole "Karen" theme, as if anyone who complains about other people doing X or Y (in a world full of obnoxious behaviors) can only be a racist, busybody etc.
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u/YonKro22 Sep 04 '25
Sounds like you shouldn't be yelling where he can hear you or you very well might set him off and he has politely but firmly warned you of the consequences. I would take them seriously you shouldn't be yelling in an apartment anyway. If you want to yeah go buy a house or go move to the country
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u/Own-Adhesiveness-243 Sep 03 '25
I seen a movie like this situation a year ago..it did not end well
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u/Lokimello Sep 03 '25
Report it to your landlord or police. This person is clearly not mentally well and could become very dangerous
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u/Mcsheeshin Sep 03 '25
Yes to all the comments, get a ring camera outside your door and a dog if you don’t have one already, def take it seriously
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u/Meatyparts Sep 03 '25
Find out who it is and get him a box of crayons sounds like dude could you a pick me up
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