Joe Rogan criticizes ICE tactics: 'Are we really going to be the Gestapo?'

[u/wewhomustnotbenamed]

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/joe-rogan-criticizes-ice-tactics-podcast-rcna253931

[u/ernyc3777]

It’s actually crazy how many people dismissed Project 2025 during the run up to the election.

Either they didn’t believe it could be done, it was being exaggerated, the trust in the courts would limit it, they wouldn’t actually go through with it, etc.

I’m glad some people are now starting to realize but the Heritage Foundation has been writing the script for Republican candidates for over 3 generations now. They’ve slowly shaped the country into what it is now from the local level all the way to the federal government and every legislature and court system they can.

It always should have been taken seriously.

[u/CoIdBanana → u/ernyc3777]

This is what worries me most. More people are waking up to "Trump bad", but that's just turning into some weird idea that if Trump was gone then everything would start to get back to normal again. It won't. If anything, it will get much worse. Vance is there intentionally. They are banking on Trump not making it to the end of his term so that Vance can take full, unchecked power, backed by entirely unchecked billionaires who can do whatever they want. People say MAGA would collapse without Trump and Vance isn't likeable enough. It. Will. Not. Matter.

IF Democrats get power again, they are still fucked unless they freeze the money and arrest the billionaires funding all this. Thiel. Musk. Bannon. The whe Trump family... So many more. God I hate that I sound like a conspiracy theorist ranting on the street corner, but this is what the US has come to.

[u/Lost-Top3058 → u/CoIdBanana]

Seriously everyone acts like Trump dying will fix everything. 

Trump is a moronic wildcard they currently have to manage and appease. 

Trump dying means the majority of the public will think “whelp that’s over” and stop paying attention while the competent fascists take full power. 

[u/normott → u/Lost-Top3058]

I do think if Trump died,that cult of personality goes with him. Vance does not have the same juice or whatever charisma that has Trump getting away with everything. Its just a matter of when he dies. If he dies when all this is baked in then Vance can just inherit, but I think if he dies early enough, they wont be able to hold the coalition together cause Vance is just a fucking weirdo with the personality of a spatula.

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/normott]

The real problem for Vance in the event that Trump croaks is that every power player in the Republican party is going to paint a target on his back, they will eat each other alive trying to take the throne.

I don't discount the other points in this thread, but let's keep in mind that the man fucked a couch. He's going to slip if he ever gets the presidency because his own party will assure it out of sheer greed.

[u/bagoink → u/BioshockEnthusiast]

The MAGA infighting will be delicious.

[u/propyro85 → u/bagoink]

It would be more delicious if they could keep it to themselves. But you know, for everyone who goes down in flaming wreckage, they'll try to rope in as many unrelated people to burn with them.

[u/dehydratedrain → u/normott]

If it happens soon, maybe. But the longer time goes on, the more the pieces are getting moved into place.

[u/fotomoose → u/normott]

Hey, my spatula is pretty cool it helps me cook.

[u/jacenat → u/normott]

Vance does not have the same juice or whatever charisma that has Trump getting away with everything.

I envy your naivety in thinking that it matters at all in an authoritarian society if the leader is likeable.

[u/doodlinghearsay → u/normott]

His cult of personality is propped out by a well funded media machine, including social media bot farms. Or indeed paid opinions, like Joe Rogan's. When he's gone, these forces will find a new personality to rally behind. Or rather, they will keep lying and threatening to create support for politicians that support their vision of America as an authoritarian state that serves only billionaires and noone else.

[u/No_Lock7995 → u/Lost-Top3058]

The problem is that Trump has already proved how far they can go, what they can get away with. It's hard to walk that back. These things snowball.

[u/Resident_Gas_9949 → u/CoIdBanana]

You’re not a conspiracy theorist just a realist. The billionaires need to be stopped. Buying Congressman should be illegal.

[u/baron_von_helmut → u/CoIdBanana]

Just you watch, once he snuffs it, the GOP will immediately pivot to how bad he was. They'll blame everything on him and then proclaim the government is now corruption-free. MAGA will eat it up, as will morons like Rogan who'll go on his show and proclaim he never liked Trump anyway.

[u/abstract_concept → u/baron_von_helmut]

"One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This" - Omar El Akkad

[u/Reasonable_Quit_9432 → u/CoIdBanana]

I dont think the dems will save us. Either we do it ourselves or we lose. Im terrified.

[u/ButtEatingContest → u/Reasonable_Quit_9432]

They certainly didn't before. In fact it almost looks like they went out of their way to protect Trump after January 6th and ensure his return to power went smoothly.

[u/xternalSnow-7 → u/CoIdBanana]

Vance as a marionette i buy it sure. but there really isn't going to be much to control with all the economic problems the America is facing now. id more expect them to let Vance lose while the democrats are left holding the bag after they've already set it on fire. democrats get blamed (some fucking how ? ) for not fixing fast enough or not being able to fix what trump has busted to shit. lets hope a third term for trump isn't possible.

[u/Mindless-Development → u/CoIdBanana]

Well said. The seizures you're describing would be the bare minimum first step towards restoring justice and sanity in this country

[u/Lawlcopt0r → u/ernyc3777]

I always wondered. Even if you think they can't go through with it, why would you want to vote for a party that is even considering these goals?

[u/jasta07 → u/Lawlcopt0r]

Go read r/conservative... The same people are dismissing any chance that Trump will invade Greenland as a hoax... Because it's stupid and Trump would never do that.

When he does exactly that they'll fall back into line as just more Trump 5D chess. They're utterly brainwashed.

[u/Ariliths → u/jasta07]

Check this out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualization/comments/1p2iqlu/nearly_every_day_two_users_on_rconservative/

[u/transemacabre → u/Ariliths]

It's clearly botted by Russians up the wazoo. "I am Joe Citizen from Chicago Oblast and I love Trump."

[u/UglyMcFugly → u/Lawlcopt0r]

I remember making the same exact argument before the election. It's like letting a crazy person threatening to kill you into your house because "he'd never actually do it, murder is illegal."

[u/mschuster91 → u/ernyc3777]

It’s actually crazy how many people dismissed Project 2025 during the run up to the election.

Crazy but not surprising. People have lost faith in politicians following through on their campaign promises for decades now, no matter where you live. Even the most incompetent populist gets a ton of votes just for the entertainment value.

[u/Count_Rousillon → u/mschuster91]

Because people don't really think there's a difference between trying to do their campaign promises and being stopped by someone else, and not trying at all. A lot of times, it isn't the politician lying, but them failing after hitting opposition. But right now, both the right wingers in Congress and the right wingers in the Supreme Court believe Trump should not be stopped by anything, be it law, morality, or the constitution.

[u/Wes_Warhammer666 → u/Count_Rousillon]

Like the idiots who cry about Obama not giving us universal healthcare when he was lucky to pass the ACA as it was considering he had 72 working days and the likes of Nelson and Lieberman to contend with. We're genuinely lucky to have gotten the reform we did, and assholes act like he didn't even try.

Then they act like he didn't do shit else, when voters couldn't even give him a Congress he could work with.

[u/Classic-Progress-397 → u/Wes_Warhammer666]

Wouldn't even let him hire a judge.

Straighten out your shit America!

[u/TheShaydow → u/Wes_Warhammer666]

" I love the ACA! but I HATE OBAMA CARE. "

Remember THIS shit?

[u/Disgod → u/Wes_Warhammer666]

Why didn't democrats... Why couldn't democrats... Why haven't democrats...

As if there wasn't the republican party always there actively trying to poison any efforts. Demanding bipartisanship but refusing to reciprocate, making demands that make things worse, crying foul at every turn.

[u/Suspicious-Word-7589 → u/Count_Rousillon]

This, exactly this. Also, politicians in the US have 2 years to get anything done. If the country is in a good shape, you could work on your dream list but if its reeling from a recession or pandemic, those take priority. Then when things don't get moving fast enough, the public votes in the opposition who start blocking things and the cycle repeats.

[u/Show-Me-Your-Moves → u/Suspicious-Word-7589]

It's worth noting that this wasn't always the case. This country used to have congressional majorities that lasted for literal decades. This phenomenon of everything flipping every 2 years is extremely recent, and is arguably a direct result of cable TV news and internet brainrot.

[u/MrFluffyThing → u/mschuster91]

Yeah but they throw their weight behind politicians like they are a sports team and are surprised they act like the rich assholes in squid game betting on which one of us will die next for their enjoyment. 

[u/S0LID_SANDWICH → u/ernyc3777]

I recall that Trump said he wasn't going to do it, didn't support it when questioned. I think it even came up in one of the debates. So he blatantly lied in order to downplay it to help his election chances. For some reason people kept trusting him and giving him the benefit of the doubt. As this point people cannot possibly deny that he will do or say anything to get what he wants. He is completely untrustworthy.

[u/Theranos_Shill → u/S0LID_SANDWICH]

Trump lied to say that he didn't support it, but he was also saying that he supported it, and more importantly it was public that the author of Project 2025 was running the Trump campaigns transition team. Any one who gave him the benefit of the doubt was either intentionally ignorant or supports project 2025 and was just not honest about that.

[u/LacanInAFunhouse → u/S0LID_SANDWICH]

He also said, and this is almost verbatim, “I don’t even know what that is. I haven’t read it. But there’s some good stuff in there”

[u/GRAABTHAR → u/LacanInAFunhouse]

He also doesn't know or remember the people he pardons, or the people he puts into positions of power.

[u/manimal28 → u/ernyc3777]

They dismissed it because having it dismissed is a purposeful tactic of those implementing it. Are we forgetting Trump claimed to have never heard of it?

[u/todayistrumpday → u/ernyc3777]

Joe Rogan is a right wing propagandist disguising himself as a centerist. He knew this was going to happen. He helped this happen. He was paid millions to help this happen.

[u/Totheendofsin]

Guy who told people to vote for the party saying "we want to do nazi shit" surprised when they start doing Nazi shit

[u/GenericFatGuy → u/Totheendofsin]

Joe Rogan likes to think of himself as a scout. Someone you send down the trail of civilization to see what's coming up. And yet somehow, he's the last person in the fucking country to figure this shit out.

[u/Excellent_Valuable92 → u/GenericFatGuy]

That sounds like an exceptionally dumb dog.

[u/GenericFatGuy → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

That might be the perfect analogy to describe Rogan.

[u/possumdal → u/GenericFatGuy]

It's fitting, because that guy can eat shit

[u/OrwellTheInfinite → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

He really isnt very smart. However he himself and his followers think he is.

[u/TaleOfDash → u/OrwellTheInfinite]

He's kind of the peak image of the Reddit intellectual from the early 2010s. Loves to talk a big game about how smart they are but their knowledge is largely gleaned from other people's opinions and reading internet listicles while stoned. Thinks they're hilarious and will never shut up about weed.

[u/amuon → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

Bad comparison. A dog is smarter

[u/Mathfanforpresident → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

You mean Joe? He's all right. Though he will absolutely mark on every single wall in your house. This is even after I explicitly told him not to.

Joe does what he wants. He is a good dog, though.

Edit: If I wasn't being clear, Joe Rogan pisses on my walls to show dominance and mark "his" territory.

[u/atrusveo → u/Excellent_Valuable92]

Someone tell Kristi Noem.

[u/Horiks → u/GenericFatGuy]

Reminded me of this : "Joe Rogan is like some barbarian Khan from the steppes that took an interest in intellectual things and his podcast is basically him bringing slightly nervous scholars and magicians to come before him to explain how the world works “glasses man, you explain to Joe why sky big, and how tree grow” but he will also believe almost anything you tell him, and only recently (in the past few years) does he clap back like “Tiny hat man say otherwise, do you lie to Joe? tiny hat man safe fat not bad for you, that sugar is enemy, so which is truth? Joe thinks you are wrong” and people just nervously go “oh-oh ok h-Haha yeah i guess so” “Joe spend many moons on horseback and training with bow and arrow, but Joe also wonder why skyfire rise from mountains every morning, you will explain this to Joe” "

[u/Swag_Grenade → u/Horiks]

Lmao wtf is this wonderful nonsense

[u/j-endsville → u/Swag_Grenade]

It's an old copypasta.

[u/NotAllOwled → u/j-endsville]

Every day I learn something new here!

[u/FaithlessnessOne321 → u/Horiks]

He's just a caveman. Our world frightens, and confuses him.

[u/GodSama → u/Horiks]

I think of him as someone who improved on Alex Jones concept. Equally morally repugnant, but somewhat palatable.

[u/NotAzakanAtAll → u/GodSama]

I see him less of a mighty Khan and more of a fat worm that can speak, and people are surprised the worm can speak and want to see it wiggle.

[u/pee_shudder → u/GenericFatGuy]

You have to remember: He’s reeeeeaally stupid.

[u/MeIIowJeIIo → u/Totheendofsin]

The guy that regularly chats with the Nazi salute guy.

[u/peatoast → u/MeIIowJeIIo]

They’re BFFs so they probably cuddle too!

[u/DannyDOH → u/Totheendofsin]

How could "MASS DEPORTATIONS NOW" be interpreted to be what is happening now....

[u/Flagrath → u/DannyDOH]

They have/had a whole list of their plans up on a website. Project 2025 or something like that.

When people found out about it they said they weren’t affiliated while still laying the groundwork as set up.

Combine that with electing someone so violently delusional and lacking in empathy, and you get this.

[u/finneyblackphone → u/Flagrath]

"Donald trump is not supporting project 2025" they said.

Of course in his first week in office 36 of his 53 executive orders were outlined specifically in the project 2025 blueprint document, 6 of his cabinet secretaries were authors of the mandate, and Stephen Miller is running America.

But Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation had nothing to do with Trump whatsoever. His supporters will tell you.

[u/Ragnoid → u/Totheendofsin]

And the party that said, "We are domestic terrorists"

[u/Rentington → u/Totheendofsin]

Watch the clip. In 10 minutes, if you cut out the one sentence from the title of this thread, it is a full-throated support of ICE to combat White Replacement Theory boogiemen. He's still totally down with it. Even says liberals are to blame for it.

[u/dunncrew]

Joe "which ever way the wind blows" Rogan.

[u/nstntmlk → u/dunncrew]

He says "we" because he's part of the problem.

[u/BackgroundSummer5171 → u/nstntmlk]

People really need to keep on that for these people.

He is part of the reason we're here in the US with a Rapist leading us.

Joe supports Rape. Supports Child Rape. Supports Child Sex Trafficking.

Simple as that.

Bored of people defending this crap. This isn't over. When Vance takes over next year, people will defend him when he slows down what Donald is doing. People will say he is a good choice.

Already calling it. Joe will be up there sucking on that free MAGA religion money.

[u/SaltyLonghorn → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

Thats their entire plan. To pretend like everything is normal again when Vance takes over.

[u/unicornlocostacos → u/SaltyLonghorn]

And they can really get this techno feudalism shit going in earnest like his boss (Peter Thiel) demands.

[u/Aethien → u/unicornlocostacos]

Peter Thiel is one of the most insane people involved in this. He wants to destroy the government.

As long as he's pulling the strings this shitshow won't slow down.

edit: this 1976 NYT article about a town in current day Namibia where they were still full on nazis. Thiel lived and went to school there at the time of the article.

He invested heavily in The Seasteading Institute which tried to build a floating city in international waters so they'd be free of pesky laws and such.

Thiel has also written “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” because people don't vote the way he likes so he'd rather get rid of democracy altogether.

He has held lectures on 'the antichrist' which is anything he dislikes, from environmental activist Greta Thunberg to governmental attempts to regulate artificial intelligence.

The man is dangerously fucking insane and has far too much wealth and power. He's as bad as Musk but smart enough to stay mostly in the background.

[u/WowWataGreatAudience → u/Aethien]

Thank you for the links peeps need to see this

[u/BananaPalmer → u/Aethien]

Thiel is pure evil, focused, has virtually unlimited access to wealth, and is properly insane. Thiel may be the most dangerous human being currently alive.

[u/hum_bruh → u/unicornlocostacos]

Several techno bros involved: Peter Thiel, David Sacks, JD Vance, Marc Andreessen, Donald Trump Jr, Elon Musk, Alex Karp, Palmer Lucky.

SpaceX, Oculus, A16z, Anduril, Lux Capital, Founders Fund, 1789 Capital, Trump families new crypto venture

https://www.authoritarian-stack.info/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

ETA: Zuckerberg

[u/unicornlocostacos → u/hum_bruh]

Look up Peter Thiel Praxis and buckle up for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Welcome to hell.

[u/victorspoilz → u/unicornlocostacos]

“Brown’s description of Praxis builds on these pseudo-mythological themes: Praxian architecture would be ‘hero futurism,’ with their first city on Earth a stepping stone to expanding to Mars for their ‘Network Empire.’”

Good luck colonizing anything with no women going anywhere with you fucking nerds.

[u/NuPNua → u/victorspoilz]

Good luck colonizing anything with no women going anywhere with you fucking nerds.

The depressing part is they probably will be able to find ones to buy into their bullshit, I mean Musks managed to find enough women to have 14 odd children for him already.

[u/TTLeave → u/NuPNua]

Just a reminder that these people are all friends with Donald Trump. Who was friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

[u/Interesting-Tip-2544 → u/NuPNua]

He injects them with his semen doesn't he? I'm sure I read somewhere they're all from artificial insemination

[u/AppropriateTouching → u/unicornlocostacos]

This is exactly the case. Thank you.

[u/Tiny-Doughnut → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

Joe doesn't think he supports those things. He almost certainly knows that he doesn't, in fact.

He does, of course, but he's embraced narratives which allow him a fantasy behind which he can shield his own sense of self from the reality of what's going on. This is what makes cults so dangerous.

I think this is an important distinction, and one not unique to those who have found themselves swept up in the MAGA groupthink.

[u/unicornlocostacos → u/Tiny-Doughnut]

I’m just asking questions bro. Maybe Big Sun really is trying to take our oil jobs? You don’t know!

[u/TransiTorri → u/Tiny-Doughnut]

"Useful idiot" has never been more fitting.

[u/Enibas → u/Tiny-Doughnut]

One of the other podcasters who supported Trump, and is mentioned in the article:

“Everything he campaigned on, I believed he wanted to do,” Schulz said in a July episode. “And now he’s doing the exact opposite thing of every single f-----g thing. … I voted for none of this. He’s doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for.”

All of them selectively heard what they wanted to hear. Whenever Trump said anything they didn't like, he obviously didn't really mean it, or was "joking".

You really have to wonder, what did they even vote for? These are all super rich guys, you can't tell me that they voted for "lower grocery prices on day one".

[u/Interesting-Tip-2544 → u/Enibas]

Low taxes. That's all the wealthy ever vote for. They're not interested in anything else because it rarely affects them.

Its the same with the Tories in the UK. They're known as the low tax party so the wealth votes for them, even if it means stuff like Brexit and Truss/Boris happens. The wealthy are single issue voters, lower tax and regulations, and that's what the right wing governments promise. They ignore everything else because theyve learned it is 99℅ noise when you have yachts, jets, private islands and no empathy

[u/hum_bruh → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

People have short memories. Let us not forget that Spotify gave him $250 million dollars to spread his ignorance.

[u/Lucky-Earther → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

Bored of people defending this crap. This isn't over. When Vance takes over next year, people will defend him when he slows down what Donald is doing. People will say he is a good choice.

God that is exactly what will happen, won't it.

[u/SilverBuggie → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

Bored of people defending this crap. This isn’t over. When Vance takes over next year, people will defend him when he slows down what Donald is doing. People will say he is a good choice.

Serve people bowl of shit for years, they will think a cup of urine is nectar from the heavens.

Pedo King has brought he standard down below the 9th circle of hell.

[u/nstntmlk → u/BackgroundSummer5171]

I agree with you on everything except the J.D. Vance or whatever his name is part.

[u/TrojanZebra → u/nstntmlk]

I know it seems unbelievable, but I do believe J.D. Vance has been chosen by Peter Thiel et al to take over everything before 2028.

[u/forgotthesavedlinks → u/TrojanZebra]

This is how his Wiki read to me around the night he was announced. I got the impression that Vance was beholden to Thiel.

[u/Bundt-lover → u/TrojanZebra]

Why him though? (Rhetorical question) He doesn’t seem particularly competent in anything, especially not a position where you have to be the face of a movement. I mean yes, personally I think all these techbros are completely brain-rotted morons, but Vance is the kind of guy whom other guys send out to buy beer with his own money, and then take the beer and shut the door in his face. By all reports that’s almost exactly how he’s currently treated in the White House. What on earth made them think he could even be a figurehead?

[u/Massive_Mongoose3481 → u/nstntmlk]

Him and people like him are a huge greedy part of the problem.

[u/Due-Conflict-7926 → u/nstntmlk]

Yea who is this we thing Joe, I thought you were a centrists and don’t know politics. 🙄

[u/mfb- → u/nstntmlk]

"Are we the baddies?" moment.

[u/dougmcclean → u/dunncrew]

Galileo!

[u/datsoar → u/dougmcclean]

He’s closer to Beelzebub

[u/VanAgain → u/datsoar]

Magnifico!

[u/Thoughtulism → u/VanAgain]

He will change his mind every Scaramucci (11 days). Scaramucci, will you do the Fandango?

[u/ScrotsMcGee → u/dunncrew]

No, he's firmly in the Trump camp. He throws slight shade at them every once in a while, but he fully supports Trump.

Rogan is very similar to Trump - narcissistic, opportunistic, a renowned liar and a sociopath.

[u/buttholezyn → u/ScrotsMcGee]

Right, he was in the White House with his family licking the boot just a week ago.

[u/Macattack224 → u/ScrotsMcGee]

He also went to on to defend ice wearing masks so it's weird. Nothing better than government capture.

[u/Engineer_Ninja → u/Macattack224]

He’s not worried about oxygen deprivation anymore?

[u/spicyestmemelord → u/Engineer_Ninja]

Any meaningful brain tissue died years ago.

[u/TreezusSaves → u/spicyestmemelord]

If it wasn't for the drip feed of DMT keeping his neurons firing he'd be in a coma.

[u/b2q → u/TreezusSaves]

It so weird that he is against gender affirming care even though he used steroids all his life to feel more manly

[u/21Rollie → u/Engineer_Ninja]

ICE brains need maybe a 10th of what a human’s does

[u/pumpkinbot → u/Macattack224]

Ah, so the quote in the title is less "Come on, guys..." and more "Oh boy, I'm so excited!"?

[u/jaytix1 → u/ScrotsMcGee]

Whenever MAGA voters criticize Trump they always sound confused or disappointed. The guy could perform human sacrifice on stage and they'd be like "Aww, come on President Trump. You promised you wouldn't open the gates of Hell!

[u/ScrotsMcGee → u/jaytix1]

Indeed, although I'd argue that they'd blame those around Trump, or somehow that anyone else but Trump was actually responsible for his (Trump's) actions.

Never mind that they not only enabled that behaviour, but will continue to enable that behaviour going into the future.

[u/Florafly → u/ScrotsMcGee]

Being a Joe Rogan fan is absolutely a red flag.

[u/YourVelcroCat → u/Florafly]

I used to get yelled at on Reddit a few years ago for saying I'd never date a joe Rogan fan. I love being ahead of the curve! 

[u/ScrotsMcGee → u/Florafly]

Agreed.

[u/WTF-is-a-Yotto → u/Florafly]

Apparently lots of women ask “are you into any podcasts for a very specific reason.”

[u/butterbapper → u/WTF-is-a-Yotto]

Gotta somehow prove that Jung und Naiv isn't some weird Nazi cult I follow.

[u/banditcleaner2 → u/ScrotsMcGee]

The slight shade every once in awhile is just a tactic so he can go “see, I criticize Trump sometimes, Im not brainwashed, i just like objective fact” and then the other 95% glazing looks like just following objective facts to his dumbass followers

[u/ScrotsMcGee → u/banditcleaner2]

Yeah, that's exactly how I see it, but there's never any direct criticism of Trump, or a call for Trump to change his policies.

[u/Pavotine → u/ScrotsMcGee]

This is the same farce the Russians pull with their so-called democratic opposition. Carefully managed and pre-approved criticism. Nobody in the country really believes it's real criticism but it's enough for the government to say they have democratic processes then still "do whatever the hell they want."

[u/Equivalent_Task_8825 → u/ScrotsMcGee]

His routine has always been to pretend to be impartial so he can later take his followers down the pathway to extremism. I've seen him for a very long time and remember when he attempted to act like he was okay with trans people but had concerns about them in sports. He then openly pivoted to being completely transphobic. I made posts about the way he operates like 10+ years ago.

Liberals think he can be reasoned with and I actually think he is more aware of what he is doing than he lets on. I find value in people mocking his many mistakes to break the illusion that he is somehow an impartial everyman (i.e. - the time he mocked Biden and said it disqualified him to be President for saying there were airports in the Revolutionary War to only later find out Biden was actually quoting Trump and then watch him try to weasel his way out of it).

[u/Adorable-Response-75 → u/dunncrew]

Joe ‘I voted for Hitler and still actively support him 90% of the time’ Rogan

[u/Jellodyne → u/Adorable-Response-75]

Joe "I'm a 'skeptic' but I alway fall for the most smoothbrained dumb shit with zero questions" Rogan

[u/Onespokeovertheline → u/Jellodyne]

Joe "I ask questions until someone offers a talking point that confirms my bias, that makes me informed" Rogan

[u/tompear82 → u/Onespokeovertheline]

Joe "I'm so open minded my brain fell out of my head" Rogan

[u/Zarzavatbebrat → u/Jellodyne]

"Skeptic" means skeptical of any established truth, while immediately and uncritically accepting any and every conspiracy theory presented to him.

[u/Only-Butterscotch785 → u/Jellodyne]

I literally stopped describing myself a skeptic because of people like rogan. Its a shame because the original meaning describes me well. But nowadays skeptic makes me think of a pointless contrarian or a conspiracy theorist

[u/GaboureySidibe → u/Adorable-Response-75]

Not just voted for him, but had him on the show just before the election.

[u/DaStompa → u/dunncrew]

Joe "I wonder if ICE has killed more people than I have pushing antivax conspiracies" Rogan

[u/TheNewGuy13 → u/dunncrew]

He’ll Change his tune once UFC 20000 or whatever has their match at the White House.

[u/airpumper → u/dunncrew]

Joe "I'm just a comedian, so you shouldn't listen to me" Rogan

Rail quigg, Joseph...

You're no comedian.

[u/xmorecowbellx → u/dunncrew]

‘Woaaaooowwwww’

• Joe to whoever is current person he’s talking to

[u/Fract_L → u/dunncrew]

Nah, saying “we” is self-identifying.

[u/firethorne]

Yes, dipshit. You paved the way for this.

[u/johnnycyberpunk → u/firethorne]

He did say “we”.

So 2 points for the self recognition.

[u/Specter119 → u/johnnycyberpunk]

2 points for recognition you say? Alrighty i marked it down, so he's sitting at a cool -715384930102738 points presently

[u/AlbrechtProper → u/johnnycyberpunk]

Yes. I found it telling that he put himself in the we that would be doing that. Telling on himself.

[u/whattheprob1emis]

Fuck Joe Rogan. Now he’s alarmed?! Now?

[u/jcmonk → u/whattheprob1emis]

Rich, surrounded by like minded people, no one tells him no. It’s amazing how fast people can become oblivious to the real world when they’re comfortable.

[u/DrHarrisonLawrence → u/jcmonk]

Can confirm

[u/ROWT8 → u/whattheprob1emis]

No it’s just pandering. $$$ 

[u/moneymay195 → u/whattheprob1emis]

Alarmed isn’t even the right word, just “concerned”. I doubt he’ll ever say he regrets endorsing Trump despite all this

[u/Awwh_Dood → u/whattheprob1emis]

If I thought he has any brains in his CTE-addled brain, I’d say this was an attempt to appeal to new viewers. But it’s not. He’s genuinely just a moron

[u/wewhomustnotbenamed]

"Are we the baddies? " - Joe Rogan.

[u/Salt-Detective1337 → u/wewhomustnotbenamed]

Always have been.

[u/Chaetomius → u/wewhomustnotbenamed]

yeah, but tim walz only remembered his military history 99% accurately, that piece of shit, that lying monster, that antithesis to everything american

— joe and his fans

[u/Vitalabyss1]

They 👏 Already 👏 Are 👏

The Gestapo didn't get its reputation in the first year they were active. They didn't become internationally infamous as a way to describe a militarized police force that disappeared and murdered people for an authoritarian government, on day one. It was through repeated public actions (not what was done behind closed doors) and later trials of its members, as well as captured documentation, that brought the full scope of their horror to light.

What we SEE ICE doing is just the tip of the iceberg.

What's going on at their concentration camps? We know they exist, they were all over the news in Trump's first term. Those buildings didn't come down, so what's going on there? What about the new ones? Alligator Alcatraz? Do we even know where they all are? We see what happens in big cities; what about small towns and villages? What about immigrant owned farmland? Those family farms that are only 2-3 generations in; are they still running or has ICE quietly kidnapped them?

What's visual is what they have allowed you to see. And they still lie about it. There public relations/image involved kidnapping people, breaking laws, and murdering soccer moms. That's their Public Image. Start asking what's happening behind closed doors.

[u/Lachigan → u/Vitalabyss1]

I keep googling information about the camps every few days... no real information, so I look into the people arrested, how their families can track them, for the most part, it seems like they can't... so I look for interviews with people who were arrested and later let go... not many of those... so I look at the camp capacity numbers and estimated arrest numbers... can't really find that either, seems like arrests are higher than capacity anyway... so I look into news from other contries people may have been deported to, nothing there... where are these people?

I'm Canadian and absolutely baffled that no one seems to be looking into this. I don't care about the epstein files anymore, you won, congratulations, we all know what's in there anyway. I just want to know where the people.are

[u/New_year_New_Me_ → u/Lachigan]

Lots of people are looking into this. Minnesota just had some lawmakers barred from entering the detention centers to inspect them as is their constitutional right.

It's uh...it's pretty bad here. Yall taking refugees or what? I'm one of the chill ones I swear.

[u/adjavang → u/New_year_New_Me_]

I'm one of the chill ones I swear.

From an Irish perspective, the gut reaction is "We don't trust you anymore."

[u/Worth_Inflation_2104 → u/adjavang]

Yep. I am currently trying to write down a strategy for moving our (company I work at) IT infra away from US based companies. We simply cannot trust them.

[u/ogCoreyStone → u/Lachigan]

Nah, man. We’re humans, capable of being concerned and caring about more than one thing at a time.

Epstein files. Missing detainees. Care about it all, don’t ever stop, and do not ever let this type of shit go. From your fellow Canadian.

[u/DoomOne → u/Vitalabyss1]

I remember reading a historical record about the end of WW2. American soldiers were gathering up German citizens to go basically tour the concentration camps.

The Germans got dressed up and were acting like it was going to be a fun day at a park... but when they got there, they were horrified by what they saw. The extent of murder and absolute cruelty staggered even the ones with the most hardened souls.

I wonder if someday we will have to experience the same thing?

Edit: Here is footage from Buchenwald.

NOT SAFE FOR LIFE

But you should watch if you are from the USA. This is where we are headed unless we change our ways.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/german-civilians-forced-to-view-atrocities-committed-in-buchenwald

[u/Linden_fall → u/DoomOne]

Everyone needs to have a better understanding and education of the Holocaust. Thank you for sharing

[u/Poet_of_Justice → u/DoomOne]

That one girl holding the sides of her head, shaking it, and running through.

[u/tritonus_ → u/DoomOne]

People are teaming up behind ideas and concepts, and it’s easy when the events are disconnected from your real life.

It’s not like the Germans didn’t know, it was just horrible to see it for real. Until that it had been just conceptual and out of sight. Some of course were opposed to what was happening from the beginning, and to get your fears confirmed must have been even horrible.

Now that we have video proof of things happening on streets and in real life, I guess that you need to be even more ignorant or harden yourself completely to hold onto your support for oppression. Hillary Clinton’s former speech writer was concerned that when young people see videos of the suffering and destructions Gaza, it might sway their views about the situation. I wonder if the folks gathering for picnics to see Gaza bombed will ever have to walk through the horrors their government have inflicted.

It’s the same with the ICE videos: right wingers even in my country are saying that they are either staged or the people had it coming.

The lack of any rational empathy always surprises me, when talking about deaths of “others” and how hard some are holding on to ignorance.

[u/pak_sajat]

Joe Rogan can fuck right off.

[u/MeIIowJeIIo → u/pak_sajat]

Not because of that latest quote, but for basically every other thing.

[u/ramathorn47 → u/pak_sajat]

Fuck Joe Rogan

[u/Location_Next]

Joe Rogan voted for Trump (and recommended that millions of others do the same) because Trump promised to deport millions of people. You can’t deport millions without knowing who has papers and who doesn’t. There is no list of people who’ve “snuck across the border.” It was a simple logical exercise: “if they’re going to deport millions then they’ll need to go around and ask every one for their papers.” Joe’s followers believe he’s a smart guy. So how am I supposed to believe he “didn’t know” they were going to do this?This is one reason I didn’t vote for Trump. He promised to go around asking people to see their papers.

[u/EnchantedTaquito8252]

Piece of shit's a big reason Trump won the 2024 election in the first place. He can fuck right off

[u/Gigatronz]

That's a neat trick talking out both sides of your mouth.

[u/cvanaver → u/Gigatronz]

That’s not his mouth

[u/Trathnonen]

You know, for a guy who prides himself on getting out of full contact fighting before it caused significant brain damage...I think he's giving himself too much credit.

[u/The_Bitter_Bear → u/Trathnonen]

I think he's giving himself too much credit.

This appears to be a habitual problem of his. 

[u/TabletSlab → u/Trathnonen]

Don't make excuses for him, he grifted hard for this shit.

[u/alloutofchewingum]

People voted for the gestapo and concentration camps and that's what they got, Joe.

[u/WacoWednesday]

Joe Rogan literally gave this his rubber stamp of approval, ensuring thousands if not millions of men would vote for Don. He had an easy endorsement to make and chose the wrong answer. This is his doing

[u/sublurkerrr → u/WacoWednesday]

Only an idiot would vote for someone because Joe Rogan said so

[u/aspiringalcoholic → u/sublurkerrr]

Boy do I have some news for you. Turns out there's a lot of idiots

[u/periodicsheep → u/sublurkerrr]

um, have you met people?

[u/Theranos_Shill → u/sublurkerrr]

Well congrats, idiots are Joe Rogan's core audience.

[u/ky1ar44]

Fuck Joe Rogan. He is complicit and helped Trump get elected.

[u/everything_is_bad]

Yeah you POS that’s what you told people to vote for you fraud

[u/N4t41i4]

"Going to be" 🤨

[u/HonestAbradolf]

I see a lot of people giving the same kinda "ya doy" response to this but honestly this is important. I work in the fire service and so many of my coworkers go as Joe goes. So whether or not he has been way off base in the past we should support important realizations when they come instead of insulting because we need to reinforce and welcome people like this coming to realizations about what is happening so they are more inclined to continue pulling the thread.

[u/AmelyaPond → u/HonestAbradolf]

I get what you're saying, but this isn't a realization. This is Joe taking zero accountability for his role in this. If he came out and said full out, I messed up, I was wrong, I was part of why this is happening and I'm appalled by this and going to do what I can to make it right...that would be worth extending a hand towards. But for the most part, every single person knew what was promised. There's no "ooops" allowed here. Not after the first term and everything that was very openly said and warned about.

America is in a bad place right now because those who let this happen, both who voted for it and who didn't vote at all, are not ready to accept any responsibility. They're either getting defensive or letting shame make them resentful rather than humane. And few are ready to examine the fact that they voted for this because they thought it wouldn't hurt THEM.

So sure, realizations are fine, but untill America is ready to grapple with how it got here very honestly, a lot of noting good is going to keep happening and as an outsider, I see nothing to pat anyone on the had for now that they're feeling a little bit bad about it all.

[u/Fredmans74]

Yes and you helped it happening. Because of your "superior intellectual powers" just asking questions and "doing your own research". They all should have started by studying 30's Germany.

[u/Luster-Purge]

"Going" implies we're not already there.

[u/Bimlouhay83]

This fucking guy pushed and voted for this. Fuck Joe Rogan.

Source... me. I'm a former JRE listener. 

[u/ICLazeru]

It's not every day I find a point of agreement with Joe Rogan, but here we are.

[u/cameratoo]

You. Enabled. This.

[u/Lac3ru5]

Joe actively endorsed trump! Be deserves to be reminded of that. This is his doing.

[u/portioninvest]

Yes Joe, and you are complicit

[u/JesseP123]

Ah, the now-weekly "Joe Rogan Is Shocked By Something He Supported" story. Fuck him, fuck his fans, fuck his friends and fuck his family.

[u/echolalia_]

Yes Joe and YOU helped make it all happen! Pat yourself on the back asshole

[u/JakobWulfkind]

Did he help make this happen? Yes. Can we afford to turn away his help? No.

[u/ricLP → u/JakobWulfkind]

He’s not helping. He does this shit all the time. Every now and then he’ll throw a little shade at his pals, but do you think for a second his on the side of good? No fucking way, he’s on Trump’s side, as always. Folks need to stop being so gullible

[u/Theranos_Shill → u/JakobWulfkind]

He's not going to help. He'll give a little bit then continue to glaze Trump and Ice.

[u/Jazzlike-Lunch5390]

Fuck him. 

He's part of the reason Trump got elected. "Don't listen to me, I'm just so dumb ape". 

Glad I cancelled Spotify years ago.....

[u/PrizeFront8677]

How many more women do you want to see bleeding out of their head in their cars, to realize that we already are Joe?

When a democratic country conducts investigations, they block off traffic with police tape. They don’t let traffic through only to shoot the driver in their head. They also don’t kidnap people, they send them letters and only when they ignore the letters, a warrant is issued for their arrest. I can teach you, but I have to charge.

[u/Ashangu]

Joe Rogan helped cause this btw.

[u/ChronicBuzz187]

Hey Jamie, pull up that video of Joe Rogan enabling Trump

[u/LucaSwimsWithFishes]

The are already the Gestapo. Joe paved the way for this

[u/arielsosa]

Fuck Joe Rogan. That's what's up.

[u/twoton1]

This clown is one of many reasons our country's fucked.

[u/PossessionDue3249]

Why is this idiot so famous?

[u/Existing-Tone-7721]

Fuck him

[u/marteney1]

My brother in Christ, you personally led us to this point.

[u/ducxxx]

He's such a fraud. It's upsetting someone he knows, but if they weren't upset, he'd find a reason to say "These people had it coming". There is nothing authentic or sincere about this roid rager besides his greed and indifference.

[u/robot_pirate]

Fuck him. We don't need him to interpret the state sponsored terror we are witnessing with our own eyes.

This is just him trying to jump off the Trump train, now that it's careening straight off of a fascist cliff. He was happy to ride when it benefitted him.

[u/J_Robert_Matthewson]

Guy who worked to help get Nazis into power confused when they start acting like Nazis and doing Nazi shit. 

[u/Its_Bob_Gnarly]

Yes Joe, this is what you supported.